DEAR ALL:
In spite of this discussion I look forward to all the piper betle submissions of all those myriad varieties and cultivars and regional horticultural adventures. Please lets see them , thanks in advance. usha di ps I would love to see if any of you have spotted a flowering or fruiting in a piper betle vine. On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 10:31 PM, Ushadi Micromini < microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: > Promila ji > yes > i appreciate your writing and sentiments. > If paan helps you in your chest problems, by all means chew a fresh thin > small lightest thinnest paan you can find (like good benarasi paans) cut it > up, mix with a little sugar crystal and keep in a small pill box and chew. > and get the juice down your throat. You could also cut up say a cup paan > and make a strong tea. to drink. > > BUT about the bad social habits though ..... > > One person at a time is what I do... i describe the cancer the tobacco in > gutka and mouth mucous membrane and tooth decay and damage strong alkali > and chemicals in paan cause. ANd other addictions that these things bring > in in their wake. Usually these are poor labor intensive workers taxi > drivers rickshaw wallahs sundry other labor folks sometimes teachers > students or even some univ professors... > > all have some arguments in favor of their habits. > > but sooner or later in that 10 or 20 minutes of our conversation following > the initial arguments and bravado, they all come down to asking ( > sometimes begging) if I would give them some free medical therapy for some > oral cancers in their family ... or someone very close... they all come > down to telling me how poor they are and how they can not afford therapy. > And they start bad mouthing doctors hospitals government anybody but > themselves. I bring them to appropriate places if possible to do so, > but I also have them count the cost // price of each gutka times per day > times per week times per year times number of years... and when they > arrive at the large number of rupees it opens their eyes that they bought > the cancer at such a price and will have to pay for it further when the > disease sets in . > > And with spitting... I tell them about germs of all kinds including TB and > such in addition to the sanitary problem. > > spitting problem is more intractable. they are not as afraid of the germs > as they are of cancer. And spitting is a little cultural basis and some > macho sentiments peek thru when they they are defending their behaviour. > > so there it is > > Usha di > > > > > On Sat, Sep 20, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Promila Chaturvedi < > thegardener.chaturv...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Though sometimes I eat pan after dinner if the host offers and enjoy >> it or as a medicine for my chest problems. But do detest the spitting. It >> is not only pan but tobacco chewers also spit all over. >> Promila >> >> On Fri, Sep 19, 2014 at 6:32 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes Surajit, >>> I too beg pardon of Gurcharanji and Nidhan. >>> But Paan spit is such a nasty habit. >>> >>> I too had a paan gaachh in my balcony a couple of years ago , i wanted >>> to see if i can get to fruit if possible, but it died of a fungal >>> infection we could not control. >>> >>> I have a couple of pictures including the blackening fungus ... I was >>> thinking of searching an submitting them this fortnight. >>> There are many medicinal uses for the kwath made from piper family >>> leaves ... noit just in India. South americans use Kava kava, I think its >>> a piper plant if I am not mistaken. Kava tincture is a popular mood food >>> supplement in USA. >>> >>> usha di >>> >>> >>> ps just remembered kava is indeed a piper: Piper methysticum >>> >>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 11:12 PM, surajit koley < >>> surajitnotavaila...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> I beg you pardon Gurcharan Sir and Nidhan Sir, but I fully agree with >>>> Usha Di. The latest nuisance in this 'pichkari' series is GUTKA. Only a >>>> five minutes stay in a railway station or at a bus stop will inevitably >>>> prove this pichkari habit! Several of my students had started to spit it >>>> even in their classroom! However, we were successful to get them rid of >>>> this bad habit. It has now spread like an epidemic, affecting people >>>> irrespective of age-class-caste-religion! >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Thu, Sep 18, 2014 at 9:32 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> yes, Nidhan. Its nice to see the plant itself. >>>>> >>>>> DEAR ALL: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> But it fills me with foreboding. >>>>> >>>>> may be we may get fined sooner or later for the pan pichkari .. >>>>> Salman Rushdi made the west aware of that bad habit in a wide scale. ( you >>>>> may recall he went on and on about such uncouth behaviours in his booker >>>>> of the booker book. >>>>> >>>>> Indians are fined against it in numerous countries including very >>>>> vigorously in Singapore to name one. >>>>> >>>>> I always hope that some uncouth human does not do in California, >>>>> because in Little India in Queens NY several immigrants were already >>>>> warned >>>>> by authorities..to put it mildly. Please look up : >>>>> (( On Jackson Heights Sidewalks, a Treat’s Messy Aftermath By >>>>> NICHOLAS HIRSHON Published: August 12, 2012 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/13/nyregion/messy-aftermath-of-paan-after-dinner-treat-splits-jackson-heights-queens.html#h >>>>> [] )) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> facebook even has a page : >>>>> *https://www.facebook.com/theugl.yindian/posts/701690763223515 >>>>> <https://www.facebook.com/theugl.yindian/posts/701690763223515>* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> At least one council (locality ) in England has banned it: >>>>> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/england/london/8580076.stm >>>>> I quote from it : "Brent is not the only part of London which has been >>>>> blighted by this. Neighbouring Ealing Council has also faced similar >>>>> problems and there are reports of problems in places like Leicester and >>>>> Birmingham." end quote. >>>>> >>>>> Its very shameful when we encounter such posters. But its our own >>>>> fault that our country men (and women) do it. >>>>> >>>>> Ex president KALAM talked of it >>>>> https://archive.org/stream/PresidentKalamS/TXT/00000089.txt >>>>> >>>>> so much for my pet peeve. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> usha di >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 13, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Nidhan Singh < >>>>> nidhansingh...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> A very popular plant, so we have people who chew this in USA >>>>>> also..may be mostly Indian..thanks Sir.. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 12, 2014 at 7:52 AM, Gurcharan Singh <singh...@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> *Piper betle* L., Sp. Pl. 1: 28. 1753. >>>>>>> Betel pepper, Paan leaf >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Photographed from Indian store in California >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> Dr. Nidhan Singh >>>>>> Assistant Professor >>>>>> Department of Botany >>>>>> I.B. 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