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From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
Date: Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 9:42 PM
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:200705] Cyperus plateilema (Steud.) Kük. SN Sep
21
To: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]>
Cc: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>


Dear Santhan Ji,

The KEY, to identify *C. paniceus* and *C. cyperoides,* is different in the
book "Bengal Plants" and in FBI, which does not tally with what you have
provided here.
I have one post
https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/ylL6rl9fxko. KEW has
several herbaria -

   - *C. paniceus
   
<http://keys.trin.org.au/key-server/data/0e0f0504-0103-430d-8004-060d07080d04/media/Html/taxon/Cyperus_paniceus.htm>*
(spike
   not globose, spikelet one flowered)


   1.
*http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000592565
   <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000592565> *
   2. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000592564


   - *C. cyperoides* (spike not always oblong? spikelet 1 to 3 flowered)


   1. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000362749
   2. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000321389


   - *C. clarkei* (I do not know,  as per FBI stem 3-8 inch....since your
   spikes are subcapitate or with short rays it maybe...)


   1. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000290886
   2. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000592556

As for "glumes", "wing", "spikelets", "florets"..... these are all Greek to
me and I have never tried to examine them under microscope, for I know I
won't understand.

Thank you
Regards



On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 4:29 PM, Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Dear surajitji thank you for your comment, Now a days i am not sitting
> with my dissection microscope. Just with past experience and floral
> guidance deciding the identity. Nomenclatural changes leads confusion some
> times.
> the identity for my image according to our regional flora is
> *Cyperus* *clarkei* T.Cooke (= *Mariscus* *bulbosus* C.B.Clarke)
>
> You asked the difference between Cyperus paniceus and C. cyperoides.
> I herewith provided the same.
> Cyperus paniceus: Spike globose, spikelets many flowered, glumes winged on
> keel.
>
> C. cyperoides : Spikes oblong, spikelets 1 flowered, glumes not winged.
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 26, 2014 at 3:17 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>
>> Thank you very much for sharing. Can you please tell me how to
>> differentiate this one and 1) *Cyperus paniceus* (Rottb.) Boeckeler 2) 
>> *Cyperus
>> cyperoides* (L.) O. Kuntze?
>> Regards
>>
>> Surajit
>>
>> One of my earlier upload (https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/
>> indiantreepix/fYDsMMk5dpY) which seems similar to your spesies(*Cyperus
>> plateilema (Steud.) Kük.)*. So please confirm and validate.
>> With regard
>> Karuna Kanta Das
>>
>>
>>
>>  Dear Santhan Ji,
>> I am afraid your sedge doesn't look like the herbarium found in KEW -
>>
>>    1. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000321396
>>    2. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000321397
>>    3. http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/detailsQuery.do?barcode=K000321398
>>
>> In fact perhaps "*Cyperus plateilema (Steud.) Kük.* (=  *Mariscus
>> bulbosus* Steud)," not found in India - http://www.iucnredlist.org/
>> details/185391/0
>> What we have in India is *Mariscus bulbosus* C.B.Clarke
>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-253608?ref=tpl1> (not of
>> Steud; vide FBI.vi.620) (please check http://www.iucnredlist.org/
>> details/176908/0
>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iucnredlist.org%2Fdetails%2F176908%2F0&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNGKzXZ8lZIN-nhAZiz5AyopaQozUg>
>>  for
>> distribution) ..... which is somewhat similar to *Mariscus pictus* Nees
>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-253938> (vide FBI).... I
>> am not sure if your plant can be same.
>> Thank you
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]>
>> Date: 17 September 2014 16:08
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:200705] Cyperus plateilema (Steud.) Kük. SN Sep 21
>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> *Cyperus plateilema (Steud.) Kük.* (=  *Mariscus bulbosus* Steud), wild
>> sedge from Denkanikota area of Krishnagiri District Tamilnadu
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