Thanks, Henderson ji.

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From: Henderson, Andrew
Date: 29 September 2014 22:46
Subject: RE: [efloraofindia:200665] identification no 17/09/2014sn1
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>


 Phoenix are difficult to identify if the locality is unknown. In
cultivation they hybridize. Is this a wild plant?



*From:* J.M. Garg [mailto:[email protected]]
*Sent:* Sunday, September 28, 2014 7:45 AM
*To:* efloraofindia
*Cc:* Satish Nikam; radha veach
*Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:200665] identification no 17/09/2014sn1



Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:

My guess is Phoenix robusta
regards
Radha

may be canary island palm, not sure though

would like to see it in its entirety, if you had a chance to take it all in.

usha di

This is the same
https://www.flickr.com/photos/49876611@N06/6165335635/in/photolist-aoNXug,
i posted earlier identified as Chamerops humilis.Of course it is not
cultivated.
Regards
Satish nikam

I have seen Phoenix robusta in the location you mentioned. In this area
they are often very short trees, sometimes only a few feet. Your posted
pictures resemble mine. It is often difficult to get an image of an entire
tree.
regards
Radha

Let me get this straight. Does it mean P.robusta= P. loureiroi var.
pedunculata= P. loureirii var. humilis= P. humilis Royle ex Baker. Hook
Kindly clarify and thanks for the help. Appreciate it.
Regards
Satish nikam



I spent a very long time trying to sort out these similar species of
Phoenix even after seeing plants with flowers and fruits for several years!
>From the available literature it appears there is some confusion between
them.
I finally went with the description of P. robusta given in Talbot's Forest
Flora of Bombay Presidency and Sind because it is the most detailed and
most closely matches with the plants I have seen in Lonavala area. It may
be that the plant displays some differences according to soil, exposure to
wind etc.
Please look it up and see what you think.
If any experts can throw more light on the specific distinctions between
these species that would be great!
Thanks for posting this plant.
Do try the fruits if you get a chance to pick them before the monkeys. They
are very sweet. The seeds germinate easily and you can propagate the trees!
regards
Radha

efi page on Phoenix loureiroi
<https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/arecaceae/phoenix/phoenix-loureirii>
 (Syn: *Phoenix* *humilis* Royle ex Becc. [Illegitimate]; *Phoenix*
*humilis* var. *loureiroi* (Kunth) Becc.; *Phoenix* *pusilla* Lour.
[Illegitimate]; *Phoenix* *hanceana* Naudin; *Phoenix* *hanceana* var.
*formosana* Becc.; *Phoenix* *hanceana* var. *philippinensis* Becc.;
*Phoenix* *humilis* var. *hanceana* (Naudin) Becc.; *Phoenix* *pygmaea*
Raeusch. [Invalid]; *Phoenix* *humilis* var. *pedunculata* (Griff.) Becc.;
*Phoenix* *humilis* var. *robusta* Becc.; *Phoenix* *humilis* var. *typica*
Becc. [Invalid]; *Phoenix* *loureiroi* var. *humilis* S.Barrow; *Phoenix*
*ouseleyana* Griff.; *Phoenix* *pedunculata* Griff.; *Phoenix* *robusta*
(Becc.) Hook.f.) as per Palms of Southern Asia
<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=O8_HfArx3PEC&pg=PA140&dq=phoenix+species+in+india&hl=en&sa=X&ei=dtFHUuaQOIasrAfpqYG4CQ&ved=0CDcQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=phoenix%20species%20in%20india&f=false>
By Andrew Henderson (2009);



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From: *'Satish Nikam' via efloraofindia* <[email protected]>
Date: 17 September 2014 12:27
Subject: [efloraofindia:200665] identification no 17/09/2014sn1
To: Indiantrees Pics <[email protected]>

  Friends,

          Kindly help in identification of this Palm Tree.

Date/time:march14

location:ambyvalley rd.,lonavala,pune

habitat:wild

plant habit:tree

height:about 6-7 ft.upto the tip

other info:flowers attract a lot of honeybees

regards

satish nikam

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