Thank you Garg Sir, thanks to Santhan Ji. I have developed a doubt if we
have any *N. rubra* in our database at all, in fact none of the posts shows
red flowers, all are shades of pink, only the one by Balkar Sir
<https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/JdflalC07Kg/FkzRNND-8s0J>
may be called close to red (anthers only).
Regards


On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:49 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

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> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]>
> Date: 20 November 2014 17:46
> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:205642] Hooghly : Nymphaea lotus var.
> pubescens (Willd.) Hook. f. & Thomson
> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>
>
> *Nymphaea* *rubra* Roxb. ex Andrews
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>
>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>    This needs some further investigation. N. pubescens is characterised
>> by sharply dentate leaves (which it has) and pubescent leaf under surface
>> (it is glabrous here). Can you check with original description of N. rubra
>> for leaf under surface.
>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>
>> Thank you Sir, i have also noted the point (leaf under surface), that is
>> why i followed the FoC where the site informs, "cultivated forms of var.
>> *pubescence* with red flowers, originating from India....", thinking
>> that cultivated forms may have variable character (s).
>> However, Flora Indica records -
>> 1) *N. rubra* R. : Leaves sub-orbicular, margins sharply
>> sinuate-toothed, downy underneath. Flowers red...... A native of India. It
>> flowers during the rainy season, In Bengal there is a smaller rose coloured
>> variety (differs in numbers of stamens & stigma rays).
>> 2) *N. lotus* Willd.. 2. 1153 : Leaves orbicularly peltate, sharply
>> sinuate toothed, downy underneath..... It differs from *N. rubra* in the
>> colour of the flowers only. There is a beautiful rare variety with pink
>> coloured flowers..... the white sorts is found common in pools,... it
>> flowers more or less the whole year......
>> 3) *N. versicolor* R. : Leaves oval, peltate, repand-dentate.... A
>> native of Bengal, ...two varieties, ...one pure white and the other pink of
>> various shades.
>> Compared to above entry by Haines :-
>> *N. lotus* L. : Leaves usually pubescent beneath.... (two var.) *lotus* 
>> proper
>> and *rubra*.
>> Compared to above the author(s) of http://archive.lib.cmu.ac.
>> th/full/T/2008/biol0708wl_ch3.pdf informs (in Thailand) leaves of *N.
>> rubra* Roxb. ex Salisb. orbicular, dark reddish both above and below,
>> becoming greenish above with age, below pubescent; veins about 9 pairs....
>> Attached here larger photographs for your perusal.
>> Thank you very much for taking care.
>> Regards
>>
>> Suarjit
>>
>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
>> Date: 8 November 2014 23:01
>> Subject: [efloraofindia:205642] Hooghly : Nymphaea lotus var. pubescens
>> (Willd.) Hook. f. & Thomson
>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>
>>
>> I have used the name as found in FoC. This may be cultivated, found today
>> beside a busy dusty road near Uttarpara.
>> Thank you
>> Regards
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