Surajit ji As per Cucurbitaceae of India (Renner and Pandey, 2013) and paper supplied by Renner recently on our group, the correct name is Solena umbellata, and it grows only in Sri Lanka and South India, not Bengal. The plant growing in NE India is Solena heterophylla, which does not have a beak at all, nor pointed or narrowed end. This is the fruit represented in my book, and clicked by Ritesh ji. I think it has no comparison with Coccinia grandis in fruit or flower.
Dr. Gurcharan Singh Retired Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:27 AM, surajit koley <[email protected] > wrote: > Yes Didi, the sellers here also say that this is cultivated in 24-parganas. > Thank you > Regards > > > On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Ushadi Micromini < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Surajit: >> >> yes thats what i buy it as kundri kundru or even kundro >> >> depends where the farmer came from >> north or south 24 paragana or deep delta sunderbans >> >> dont ask me which geographical area uses exactly which name >> dont know >> >> usha di >> >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:40 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Didi, keu keu eke KUNDRI o bole thake. >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> onakeyi jigish korte hobe >>>> >>>> ami hoyto bhul oto kotrte pari >>>> >>>> cucurbita family week e hoyto >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:34 PM, surajit koley < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hyan Didi, duto phal - telakucha ar eiti anektai alada dekhete. Satyi >>>>> bolte ki ami bhabtam taruli hochchhe *Solena*, kintu amake ekjan, je >>>>> chash koreche eksamay, phuler ja size dekhalo tate kakhonoi *Solena* hote >>>>> pare na. >>>>> >>>>> But couldn't find the key by Gurcharn Sir, except - >>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/OlJ_0RHsLAA/W_lsjHsHsCEJ >>>>> >>>>> Thank you >>>>> Regards >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Bimbi in sanskrit/ ayurvedic botany books >>>>>> tindora in gujarati, and in madhya pradesh hindi >>>>>> >>>>>> nice depiction and cross section, Surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> my understaniding was that tela kucho that helps liver disorder is a >>>>>> bit different (that's why cant go by the colloquial names..).... fruit is >>>>>> pointed at the distal end i think sort of like a triangular end .... >>>>>> (????) vs bimbi is rounded at shoulders and one end is narrowed but >>>>>> still cylindrical... >>>>>> >>>>>> real tela kucho and this bilimbi /tindora : botanically more >>>>>> differences exist .. Gurcharnji had made a key way back when >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> usha di >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:25 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> This is sold as TARULI in local markets and used as vegetable. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Interestingly - >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 1. *Coccinia grandis* in Voigt, Roxburgh and Prain is TELAKUCHA >>>>>>> in Bengali; KUNDRI/KANDURI, BHIMB in Hindi (Haines); BAN-KUNDRI in >>>>>>> Odisha >>>>>>> 2. *Zehneria umbellata* (*Solena* sp.) syn. *Momordica umbellata* is, >>>>>>> in Bengali - RAKHAL-SASA (Voigt); KUDARI/KOODURI (Prain and >>>>>>> Roxburgh); >>>>>>> BAN-KUNDRI (Haines); in Hindi - BAN-KUNDRI (Haines); AMOOT-MOOL or >>>>>>> TURULI >>>>>>> (Roxb.); TARALI (Prain) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> These photographs were taken on 3/7/13 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Usha di >>>>>> =========== >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Usha di >>>> =========== >>>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Usha di >> =========== >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
