Gurcharanji all this is confusing me I dont have your book nor have i seen ritesh's pic i see the renner paper but superficially quickly perusing it it confused this issue more than clarify it for me...
*tell me please what vegetable is in the white dish that surajit has photographed here* that is the fruit/vegetable we get in south 254 paraganas and in Howrah and north 24 paraganas.. I want to know what it is that I am eating feeding my family... thanks usha di On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:54 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote: > Surajit ji > As per Cucurbitaceae of India (Renner and Pandey, 2013) and paper supplied > by Renner recently on our group, the correct name is Solena umbellata, and > it grows only in Sri Lanka and South India, not Bengal. The plant growing > in NE India is Solena heterophylla, which does not have a beak at all, nor > pointed or narrowed end. This is the fruit represented in my book, and > clicked by Ritesh ji. I think it has no comparison with Coccinia grandis in > fruit or flower. > > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/ > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Sat, Dec 6, 2014 at 7:27 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Yes Didi, the sellers here also say that this is cultivated in >> 24-parganas. >> Thank you >> Regards >> >> >> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 10:50 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Surajit: >>> >>> yes thats what i buy it as kundri kundru or even kundro >>> >>> depends where the farmer came from >>> north or south 24 paragana or deep delta sunderbans >>> >>> dont ask me which geographical area uses exactly which name >>> dont know >>> >>> usha di >>> >>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:40 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Didi, keu keu eke KUNDRI o bole thake. >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:37 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> onakeyi jigish korte hobe >>>>> >>>>> ami hoyto bhul oto kotrte pari >>>>> >>>>> cucurbita family week e hoyto >>>>> >>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 8:34 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hyan Didi, duto phal - telakucha ar eiti anektai alada dekhete. Satyi >>>>>> bolte ki ami bhabtam taruli hochchhe *Solena*, kintu amake ekjan, je >>>>>> chash koreche eksamay, phuler ja size dekhalo tate kakhonoi *Solena* hote >>>>>> pare na. >>>>>> >>>>>> But couldn't find the key by Gurcharn Sir, except - >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/OlJ_0RHsLAA/W_lsjHsHsCEJ >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Fri, Dec 5, 2014 at 11:19 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Bimbi in sanskrit/ ayurvedic botany books >>>>>>> tindora in gujarati, and in madhya pradesh hindi >>>>>>> >>>>>>> nice depiction and cross section, Surajit >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> my understaniding was that tela kucho that helps liver disorder is >>>>>>> a bit different (that's why cant go by the colloquial names..).... >>>>>>> fruit is >>>>>>> pointed at the distal end i think sort of like a triangular end .... >>>>>>> (????) vs bimbi is rounded at shoulders and one end is narrowed but >>>>>>> still cylindrical... >>>>>>> >>>>>>> real tela kucho and this bilimbi /tindora : botanically more >>>>>>> differences exist .. Gurcharnji had made a key way back when >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 9:25 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is sold as TARULI in local markets and used as vegetable. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Interestingly - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> 1. *Coccinia grandis* in Voigt, Roxburgh and Prain is TELAKUCHA >>>>>>>> in Bengali; KUNDRI/KANDURI, BHIMB in Hindi (Haines); BAN-KUNDRI in >>>>>>>> Odisha >>>>>>>> 2. *Zehneria umbellata* (*Solena* sp.) syn. *Momordica >>>>>>>> umbellata* is, in Bengali - RAKHAL-SASA (Voigt); KUDARI/KOODURI >>>>>>>> (Prain and Roxburgh); BAN-KUNDRI (Haines); in Hindi - BAN-KUNDRI >>>>>>>> (Haines); >>>>>>>> AMOOT-MOOL or TURULI (Roxb.); TARALI (Prain) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> These photographs were taken on 3/7/13 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, >>>>>>>> send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> =========== >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Usha di >>>>> =========== >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Usha di >>> =========== >>> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "efloraofindia" group. >> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an >> email to [email protected]. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >> > > -- Usha di =========== -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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