Thank you Dr Chris. Is there anything I can do in the absence of a chromosome 
count to get a clearer picture?

Regards,
Ashwini

On 10-Dec-2014, at 11:03 am, Chris Fraser-Jenkins <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> Hello Ashwini,
>         Yes, this is P. cretica - which has two slightly different and 
> cytologically different subspecies, recognisable from the teeth on the 
> sterile fronds.  My general impression is that this might perhaps be subsp. 
> laeta, the triploid, which would be interesting as subsp. cretica (diploid) 
> is supposed to be more common in the west.  But I'm not very confident in 
> this case, as some parts show the more regular teeth of subsp. cretica.  If 
> only one of Dr. Khullar's students at Panjab Univ. could get a chromosome 
> count of this plant (unfortunately they don't do mititoic counts from 
> root-tips), it would be helpful to me to adjust taxonomic concepts of the 
> frond-morphology of the two subspecies.
>       The wavy edges are like subsp. laeta - but on second thoughts I think 
> those marginal teeth are too regular, so perhaps subsp. cretica is more 
> likely after all!  Difficult!  If I had it in hand I might be able to get a 
> better impression.  Both subspecies are common.
>      Cheers,
>             Chris F.-J.
> 
> From: Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
> To: Chris Fraser-Jenkins <[email protected]> 
> Sent: Tuesday, 9 December 2014, 21:32
> Subject: Fwd: Pteris cretica?/ABDEC22
> 
> 
> 
> Begin forwarded message:
> 
>> From: Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
>> Subject: Pteris cretica?/ABDEC22
>> Date: 9 December 2014 5:43:17 pm IST
>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>> 
>> This simple and common fern grows in clusters. Stipes are dark at base and 
>> lighter green above. They are grooved on upper surface.
>> 
>> I am not sure if it is Pteris cretica.
>> Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
>> 07-08 December 2014
>> 
>> Thanks.
>> Ashwini
>> 
>> <IMG_1348_09Dec14.jpg><IMG_1487_09Dec14.jpg><IMG_1491_09Dec14.jpg>
>> 
>> Most have three pair of simple pinnae with the bottom pair extra-winged. The 
>> longest pinna is at the apex. The edges are sharply serrated and 
>> parallel/forked veins are clearly defined around a protruding costa on 
>> underside.
>> 
>> <IMG_1474_09Dec14.jpg><IMG_1488_09Dec14.jpg>
>> <IMG_1482_09Dec14.jpg>
> 
> 
> 
> <IMG_1491_09Dec14.jpg><IMG_1474_09Dec14.jpg><IMG_1348_09Dec14.jpg><IMG_1487_09Dec14.jpg><IMG_1488_09Dec14.jpg><IMG_1482_09Dec14.jpg>

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