Garg Sir,

I miss *Lindenbergia muraria* (Roxburgh ex D. Don) Bruhl in subpages. I
think we should keep it and place the threads of Nidhan Sir
<https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/Xy9ZCVzM4K4/oqYZxwTdyS8J>
or Arun
Ji <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/UNf0xbE-6vM/PLl9AflVuGcJ>
or others (where flowers have distinct rounded-emarginate upper lips) under
it (i.e. *L. muraria*). Because I think those agree with FoC
<http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=210001029> or
Pennell
<http://books.google.co.in/books?id=akXKOaT69SwC&pg=PA25&lpg=PA25&dq=Lindenbergia+macrostachya&source=bl&ots=tnwL5PyBCc&sig=6wWhxJ-FisRCsT7-lJai8BnzQHA&hl=en&sa=X&ei=QBQCUtWYCoKMrQfbkoDYDg&ved=0CHgQ6AEwDQ#v=onepage&q=Lindenbergia%20macrostachya&f=false>
.

I do not know what would be accepted name of my (or some other also)
species, where the flowers have narrow upper lip. It may be regional
variation/ssp of *L. muraria*.
Or it may simply be *L. ruderalis*, a distinct species from *L. muraria* or *L.
indica*.
But, it can never be *L. indica* (L.) Vatke if Bangladesh document
<http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJPT/article/view/585/1030> is correct.

Thank you
Regards
surajit


On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 9:36 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks, Surajit ji.
> Are the accepted names (In bold) & thier synonyms OK at this page:
> Lindenbergia
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/plantaginaceae/lindenbergia-indica>
>  ?
>
> On 25 December 2014 at 20:43, surajit koley <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Thank you Garg Sir.
>> Regards
>> surajit
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Dec 25, 2014 at 4:48 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Surajit ji,
>>> In view of the errors ponited out by you, I have updated eFI
>>> (efloraofindia) page on Lindenbergia
>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/plantaginaceae/lindenbergia-indica>
>>> (Pl. click).
>>> I shall be updating the subpages only after receiving the acceptability
>>> of the species (in Bold) & their synonyms on this page.
>>> So pl. confirm for changes, if any.
>>>
>>> On 16 December 2014 at 22:43, surajit koley <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Garg Sir, I have received acknowledgement mail from Arun Ji much
>>>> earlier, but we need to sort out current accepted names of two FBI species
>>>> = 1) *L.. polyantha* Royle 2) *L. urticaefolia* Lehm.
>>>>
>>>> I remember we had a long discussion regarding this in my post -
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/a3GlSW2tipk/xhRKCoYhP6IJ.
>>>>
>>>> I reiterate this is same as Nidhan Sir's post
>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/Xy9ZCVzM4K4/oqYZxwTdyS8J>.
>>>> But I have doubt if the accepted name would be *Lindenbergia indica* (L.)
>>>> Kuntze (or Vatke
>>>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-29202416>). I think the
>>>> accepted name would be *L. muraria* (Roxb. ex D. Don) P. Bruehl.
>>>>
>>>> At the same time I think what Sweedle Ji shared as "Lindenbergia
>>>> indica-1.jpg" in this thread is same species as in my another upload -
>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/INM9PDos1gI/NX_FkoaJ_ZEJ.
>>>> *Please note the narrow upper lip of the flowers*. I don't think it is
>>>> (either of Sweedle Ji or of mine) *Lindenbergia indica*. Because, *L.
>>>> indica (L.) Vatke is synonymous with L. polyantha Royle ex Benth.* as
>>>> per a document from Bangladesh -
>>>> http://www.banglajol.info/index.php/BJPT/article/view/585. We do not
>>>> have *L. polyantha* Royle in this area of West Bengal. *Please note L.
>>>> polyantha Royle has sessile or sub-sessile leaves*. as per Prain and
>>>> Haines.
>>>>
>>>> Attached here relevant entries and KEY in Prain, Haines, Voigt, Flora
>>>> Indica and Scrophularineae Indicae
>>>> <http://www.botanicus.org/title/b11833518>.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Dec 4, 2014 at 10:49 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>>>
>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>
>>>>> This seems to be *Lindenbergia sp. *
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sweedle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>  This is same species as of Nidhan Sir
>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/Xy9ZCVzM4K4/oqYZxwTdyS8J>
>>>>> or Alok ji, accepted as *Lindenbergia indica* in our (eFI) database
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/plantaginaceae/lindenbergia-indica/lindenbergia-indica>
>>>>> .
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Surajit
>>>>>
>>>>> Check Flora of Maharashtra by M. R. Almeida... there are only 2
>>>>> species reported. one is L. muraria the other i am not recollecting. i 
>>>>> fell
>>>>> it is the other one.
>>>>> regards
>>>>>
>>>>> satish pardeshi
>>>>>
>>>>>  Sorry....Somehow I didn't see the title of the mail..... I am
>>>>> attaching pics of 2 species of *Lindenbergia* that I have seen....
>>>>> Your species seems similar to* L. muraria *unlike it doesn't have red
>>>>> spots on the lower petals.*..* Let us take more opinions.....
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Sweedle
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>   efi page on Lindenbergia indica
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/plantaginaceae/lindenbergia-indica/lindenbergia-indica>
>>>>>  &  Lindenbergia ruderalis
>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/plantaginaceae/lindenbergia-indica/lindenbergia-ruderalis>
>>>>>   (syn: Lindenbergia urticaefolia Lehm., Stemodia muraria Roxburgh ex
>>>>> D. Don; Stemodia ruderalis Ritz. ; Lindenbergia muraria (Roxburgh ex D.
>>>>> Don) Bruhl)
>>>>>
>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>> From: N Arun <[email protected]>
>>>>> Date: 12 November 2014 at 18:47
>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:205956] AKNOV02 Lindenbergia sp. for ID
>>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Location: Dehradun, by a stream side
>>>>>
>>>>> Nov 2014
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-6ZZza7rQNpg/VGNcW7t6JiI/AAAAAAAAChI/OCO2RtXrMsE/s1600/DSC_0544%2B%28Custom%29.JPG>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/-f2cPZZHSkHM/VGNcqBv3bSI/AAAAAAAAChQ/69rnTzohSqo/s1600/DSC_0537%2B%28Custom%29.JPG>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://lh4.googleusercontent.com/-OhCa6G8h8TQ/VGNdSvVe2EI/AAAAAAAAChY/GRSlHsrBCZA/s1600/DSC_0540%2B%28Custom%29.JPG>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-o40XAjY7N70/VGNcF2lPtJI/AAAAAAAAChA/Mwe0DgptF9U/s1600/DSC_0542%2B%28Custom%29.JPG>
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