Satish Sir, I very much miss your view!
Regards
surajit

On Fri, Feb 27, 2015 at 9:50 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote:

> Thanks Surajit
>
> Dr Satish Phadke
>
> On 23 February 2015 at 23:05, surajit koley <[email protected]
> > wrote:
>
>> Dear Sir,
>>
>> (i) stamens not exserted; stigma well below anthers; spine on capsule
>> upto 10 mm long; persistent base of calyx upto 20 mm long = *inoxia*
>> (ii) stamens shortly exserted; stigma above level of anthers; spines
>> usually 3-5 mm long; persistent base of calyx to 10 mm long = *wrightii*
>>
>> Thank you
>> Regards
>> surajit
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 1:50 PM, Nidhan Singh <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Surajit Ji for raising your doubts which led to suitable
>>> explanation, thanks Gurcharan Sir for confirming the id..
>>>
>>> On Mon, Feb 23, 2015 at 12:16 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I don't find any contradiction with links provided. The last link
>>>> identification has to be still verified by experts as mentioned on the
>>>> website. My experience is that plants of D. inoxia are pubescent so that
>>>> older plants especially along roadsides become dirtier, capsules are
>>>> usually deflexed with slender spines. In D. metel plants are glabrescent
>>>> and stems and leaves usually shining, fruits usually erect with short blunt
>>>> tubercles much more stouter than D. inoxia.
>>>>     I think it is D. inoxia only.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 10:32 PM, surajit koley <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am afraid spines prove nothing. Fruits are different in FoZ -
>>>>> http://www.zimbabweflora.co.zw/cult/species.php?species_id=150820. If
>>>>> we follow FoC, number of veins on leaf should be taken care of -
>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=200020518.
>>>>> Why not it is *Datura metel*
>>>>> http://www.arkive.org/datura/datura-metel/image-G124728.html?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thank you
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> surajit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sun, Feb 22, 2015 at 7:57 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Forwarding again for validation please.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> efi page on Datura inoxia (Naturalized)
>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/s/solanaceae/datura/datura-innoxia>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>> From: Nidhan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>> Date: 19 February 2015 at 19:17
>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:216025] Solanaceae Fortnight:: Datura innoxia
>>>>>> from Panipat-NS Feb 17/17
>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear All,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is a common shrub in our area, I think this is *Datura innoxia*,
>>>>>> this has longer spines on the fruit..please validate..
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>> Dr. Nidhan Singh
>>>>>> Assistant Professor
>>>>>> Department of Botany
>>>>>> I.B. (PG) College
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