Surajit
you are consistently persistent
I like that a lot

so now we have the definitive diagnostic feature

well I like the conclusion  Dr Balakrishnan.

usha di

On Sat, Mar 7, 2015 at 7:46 PM, Nambiyath Balakrishnan <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Dear Surajit,
> The new  photos clearly show minute spines. Also the cyathia show two buds
> on either side indicating that they are in triads.
> Therefore you can confirm that the species is E. niuvlia.
> N. P. Balakrishnan
> 7 March 2015
>
> On 7 March 2015 at 18:53, surajit koley <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Sir,
>>
>> I apologize. This shrub or crooked tree has spines. But, I confirm only
>> 10% branches or less bear spines. I have checked all accessible branches
>> today. A few bear spine at the green apical region, spines in the same
>> branches are missing at lower part. Spines are about 5 mm. Attached here a
>> new set, recorded today.
>>
>> Thank you very much for bearing with me.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> surajit
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 9:19 PM, surajit koley <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Didi,
>>>
>>> I googled and found that Burbank is US city. Rest of the story is
>>> wonderful, I love it, be it fact or fiction.
>>>
>>> Thank you very much.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> surajit
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Well , Nobody seems to have caught that...
>>>> you are the only one who asked...Surajit
>>>>
>>>> Burbank is a city in california named after Luther Burbank... a
>>>> humanist, horticulturist,  Botanist and my hero.. ever since I read about
>>>> him in one of the numerous american magazines my dad used to get..I was
>>>> may  in grammar school..or younger... i was very impressed with the.. 
>>>> spinless
>>>> cactus
>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Luther_Burbank_Spineless_Cactus.jpg>
>>>> its a   part of a small write up at this url
>>>> <http://mentalfloss.com/article/57818/10-crazy-creations-plant-wizard-luther-burbank>...
>>>> they have been writing about him since about 1901... wiki has a page
>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Luther_Burbank>...   and more intense
>>>> and human interest and science related write up is in this book Rupa
>>>> publications book
>>>> <http://books.google.co.in/books/about/The_Secret_Life_Of_Plants.html?id=OWKWB6MEcq8C&redir_esc=y>.
>>>> called THE SECRET LIFE OF PLANTS...  reading this book sparks interest in
>>>> many things including Botany plants and their living systems /processes ...
>>>>
>>>> he was spiritual and used to tell his spiny nasty plants that they did
>>>> not need the thorns, he was not going to hurt them and he would protect
>>>> them... several generations later the thornless plants were emerging..
>>>>
>>>> ( I dont want to argue with any self-styled  the hard nosed
>>>> non-believers about this, so nobody should bother attacking me) ... (its a
>>>> fact or a myth, if you read  mythology like ramayana and mahabharata,
>>>> bible, old testament stories etc  and believe them then where 's the
>>>> problem with Burbank???))
>>>>
>>>> Surajit... his spineless plants reverted back after his death!!!
>>>>
>>>> ====
>>>> SO my comment was tongue in cheek reference that::   ?? are the temple
>>>> folks in India generating spineless euphorbia ??? in their yards like  so
>>>> many Modern day Burbanks....
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> be well
>>>>
>>>> usha di
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ===
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:08 PM, surajit koley <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Thank you Gurcharan Sir, thank you Didi.
>>>>>
>>>>> What is Burbank?
>>>>>
>>>>> I will follow the development of this plant. Meanwhile more photos,
>>>>> recorded on last Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> surajit
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:18 PM, Ushadi Micromini <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> do you think we may have another Burbank in our own West Bengal
>>>>>> temple yards?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> so that the trees dont need their thorns?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> usha di
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 2:04 PM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The cyathia very much resemble E. nivulia, both in colour, peduncle
>>>>>>> length, glands, etc. Even cyathia are in pairs as we can see scar of 
>>>>>>> fallen
>>>>>>> one, we can even see vestiges of two cyathia on the top of peduncle on
>>>>>>> either side of central cyathium. Even leaves resemble. The only feature 
>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>> seen is the spines, which can't be ignored in this genus.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 12:06 PM, Nambiyath Balakrishnan <
>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Surajit
>>>>>>>> I have examined the details as can be seen in the photos. It
>>>>>>>> appears to be near to E. nivulia but there are differences.
>>>>>>>> Your plant does not show any indication of spines, not even
>>>>>>>> remnants of fallen spine clusters.
>>>>>>>> Further the cyathia are all solitary, whereas in E. nivulia, they
>>>>>>>> are mostly in diads or triads.
>>>>>>>> Therefore, I am unable to identify this species. Probably it is an
>>>>>>>> introduced species.
>>>>>>>> N. P. Balakrishnan
>>>>>>>> 5 March 2015
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 3 March 2015 at 21:53, surajit koley <
>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Sir,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is a crooked shrubby plant found on roadside. The appearance
>>>>>>>>> is like that of a crooked *E. nivulia*. But, I couldn't find any
>>>>>>>>> spine on its trunk and branches. I have examined several branches. The
>>>>>>>>> leaves of this plant is about 15 cm long.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Upon receiving Tapas Sir's advice I pray to you for your opinion
>>>>>>>>> regarding this species.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> surajit koley
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>> Date: Sun, Mar 1, 2015 at 10:37 PM
>>>>>>>>> Subject: Hooghly2015Mar01sk01 : Euphorbia what ?
>>>>>>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This is often planted on roadside SHIV-MANDIR or some other diety.
>>>>>>>>> I couldn't find spine on the stem and branches, probably due to age. I
>>>>>>>>> didn't have scale or ruler with me. But leaves are, I think, more 
>>>>>>>>> than 8 cm.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Photographs were taken on 28.02.2015.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Thank you
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> surajit
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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