Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.

Some earlier relevant feedback:
  Please check for Saussurea candicans ...!!
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Dr. Nidhan Singh

It is Himalaiella heteromalla (D.Don) Raab-Straube (Asteraceae).
(earlier Saussurea heteromalla)
DSRawat Pantnagar

  From another thread Thistle For ID : Uttarakhand : 160413 : AK-1
<https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/CKkl67EB8Cc>
:
Some one needs to investigate and go at the root of confusion.
Clarke had in 1876 described *Saussurea candicans* Clarke, described in
Flora of British India with *Cirsium heteromallum* Spreng and *Carduus
heteromallus* as synonyms. He also mentioned *Aplotaxis candicans* DC. as
first synonym. It seems a combination was made before Clarke by Sch.Bip. in
1846.
Flora of Himalayas as well as Enumeration of Flowering Plants of Nepal
consider *Saussurea candicans* (DC.) Sch.Bip. as synonym of *Saussurea
heteromalla* (D. Don) Hand.-Mazz., ; Symb. Sin. 7: 1152 (1936), citing also
as synonyms *Aplotaxis candicans* DC. and *Cirsium heteromallum* Spreng. This
plant is now correctly known as *Himalaiella* *heteromalla* (D. Don)
Raab-Straube, 2003.
In above publications it seems there is no mention of *Saussurea candicans*
Clarke, which is listed as distinct species, apparantly the synonyms
mentioned in FBI were not correctly assigned.
It now seems that *Saussurea candicans* Clarke and *Himalaiella heteromalla*
(D. Don) Raab-Straube are two very distinct plants, belonging to two
different genera as per GRIN and The Plant List.
The Million dollar question is what is our common Himalayan plant (and the
above one) and whether one or both grow in Himalayas. And if both occur
here how to differentiate them. Not to forget that description given by
Clarke for S. candicans is based on West Himalayan specimens*.*



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From: N Arun <[email protected]>
Date: 12 March 2015 at 16:38
Subject: [efloraofindia:217921] AKMAR2015 03/03 Please id this Asteraceae
herb.
To: [email protected]


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