Well Didi, unless we have latest literature on any genus it is often difficult to reach correct id. Presently, I think it is *C. zeylanica* L., for this plant in this thread, combined with my record, has characters of both, *C. horrida* L.f. and *C. zeylanica* L.
Thank you Regards On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 12:23 PM, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected] > wrote: > gee gosh > > synonymous... is the key word > > but for this discussion,ok i stand corrected > > thanks > usha di > > On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 7:27 AM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Good morning Didi >> >> Perhaps you didn't get my point regarding the id of this capparis under >> discussion. >> >> As per "Bengal Plants"- >> (i) flowers supra-axillary = *Capparis horrida* L.f. = *Capparis >> zeylanica* F.I. ii. 567 (not of Linn.) >> (ii) flowers axillary = *Capparis zeylanica* L. >> >> When I posted my 2nd thread >> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/-d6KAevYmD8/KHsBEIK2lPcJ> >> TPL regarded *C. horrida* L.f. and *C. zeylanica* L. are two different >> taxa. Today they think they are synonymous. In my 2nd thread as well as in >> 1st thread the flower was supra-axillary, so I meant to say that it was not >> *C. >> zeylanica* L., but *C. horrida* L.f. >> >> As per FBI *C. acuminata* Willd. has flowers white, 2-4 in a series, >> white, axillary. The posted plate in this thread has this feature of *C. >> acuminata* Willd. Today the TPL thinks *C. acuminata* Willd. is synonym >> of *C. pyrifolia* Lam. >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> surajit >> >> >> >> On Sun, Apr 5, 2015 at 2:17 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Surajit >>> past is just that >>> let it flow like the water under or over the dam >>> >>> you are a teacher >>> teachers have to be patient >>> kids throw tantrums >>> parents can not/ should not reciprocate in like reactions >>> >>> if you do, then where is the difference? >>> >>> >>> >>> and that case that you say you got no response >>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/-d6KAevYmD8/KHsBEIK2lPcJ> >>> even i had looked at it then >>> and said what a lot of info >>> so i surmised you already had enough data to make up your own mind >>> >>> so why go into unnecessary arguments >>> >>> the thing to do is to send all those links that you want to save in the >>> thread to yourself only in the thread, that way you'll have them and you >>> can pull them out like the magical rabbit out of the hat... >>> >>> and let the discussion follow without hitting the people on the net or >>> the group with all your knowledge then people (even me) would have some >>> room to maneuver and talk / discuss. >>> >>> >>> as the group matures, so should you too >>> >>> you can no longer be the angry argumentative young man who did not know >>> about plant classification >>> now we all know you do >>> so relax >>> you are senior to most folks >>> >>> >>> take the high road >>> >>> that's my advice >>> >>> usha di >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 11:32 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Didi, >>>> >>>> It was meant to have an argument, but nobody took care, please do not >>>> ask me why, you know my history in this group! Yes, discussion is what we >>>> are here for. Most of the id related problems get solved through discussion >>>> only. But, not always. Only arguments gave me correct id in my several >>>> threads. If you like I may paste here those threads. Today this group is >>>> mature enough to pay heed to cry of a newcomer. It was not so three years >>>> ago. At least my experience wasn't sweet all the time! >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 10:01 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> SUrajit >>>>> relax >>>>> discussion does not mean argument >>>>> >>>>> discussion is friendly adda >>>>> >>>>> raga ragi is arguments >>>>> angry outbursts is ragaragi >>>>> >>>>> it was an very informative thread >>>>> Satich phadke told us that yesterday's flowers are brownish >>>>> ( ifound them to be reddish in Burwan this march, fresh ones were >>>>> white). >>>>> >>>>> that thread is *Capparis zeylanica * >>>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/JHTrhKExwbk/ErpAv-jADSgJ> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> *I love it ( the process of give and take, looking up old threads and >>>>> finding new flowers suddenly) * >>>>> >>>>> *usha di* >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:31 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Sorry Didi, I meant to say Dinesh Ji identified my post >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/JHTrhKExwbk/ErpAv-jADSgJ> >>>>>> and I learned the id from him. I didn't have any discussion with Dinesh >>>>>> Ji. >>>>>> There was no argument. >>>>>> Later I uploaded one more time in a separate thread >>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/-d6KAevYmD8/KHsBEIK2lPcJ> >>>>>> which >>>>>> remained unattended. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 9:15 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks Surajit for that ref to your discussion with Dinesh >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'll look it up >>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 7:22 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes Didi, I learned it form Dinesh Ji. I remember once I argued >>>>>>>> about *C. horrida* L.f. and *C. zeylanica* L. of Bengal Plants. >>>>>>>> Following FBI Sir Prain divided those two taxa according to axillary >>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>> supra-axillary inflorescence. Presently both are synonymous. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Also yes Voigt gave the Bengali name in Bengali script, as কালকেরা >>>>>>>> (KALOKERA in English script) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:39 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> PS Anurag's diagnosis is correct >>>>>>>>> usha di >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:38 PM, Ushadi Micromini < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Rakesh: >>>>>>>>>> Its Bangla name is KaalKera ... as in *Kaal* then *care ---- >>>>>>>>>> aaa *to pronounce it... (care as in childcare) then add an >>>>>>>>>> AAAA... >>>>>>>>>> per Kol Bot G's old dir of some dept MR. Ekkori Ghosh >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In drier parts of Bengal it started flowering in March will >>>>>>>>>> continue for April and if fertile will set fruits by may or june... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I found it in mid march near Burdwan in deep rural areas , soil >>>>>>>>>> was sandy around there... >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> was it sandy where you were? >>>>>>>>>> Please let me know >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Surajit please look at thgis >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Usha di >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 6:18 PM, Rakesh Khedwal < >>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Anurag Sharma. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Anurag Sharma [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* 04 April 2015 17:16 >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Rakesh Khedwal >>>>>>>>>>> *Cc:* Indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:220423] Kath jamun? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> *Capparis zeylanica* (Capparaceae). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I do not know the common name, please wait for further comments. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Rakesh Khedwal < >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: 04/04/2015 >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Place: Asansol (West Bengal) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Description: Thick bush of height around 2 mtrs, thorny, flowers >>>>>>>>>>> white but pink when mature. Could it be Kath jamun? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Rakesh Khedwal >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Anurag N. Sharma >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> BSc. 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