Thank you Dr Bhatt. Are all of these the same species?

Regards,
Ashwini

On 03-Apr-2015, at 12:25 pm, Dr V P Bhatt <[email protected]> wrote:

> Viola canescens
> 
> 
> On Sun, Mar 29, 2015 at 11:36 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
> efi pages on Viola canescens, Viola indica, Viola pilosa & Viola odorata
> Viola species in eFloraofindia (with details/ keys from published papers/ 
> regional floras/ FRLHT/ FOI/ Biotik/ efloras/ books etc., where ever 
> available)
> One can check the keys at Species with description & keys in Flora of 
> Pakistan :
> 
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected]>
> Date: 20 March 2015 at 20:36
> Subject: [efloraofindia:218506] Viola confusa?/ABMAR21
> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
> Cc: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]>
> 
> 
> Violas are leaving me perplexed. After communicating with Anurag last night, 
> I decided to bring the different flowers home and study them together. The 
> only new key I have found is that the lighter (whiter) violas have leaves 
> that are blunt at the apex, have the lower petal with dark veins the 
> smallest, and the stalk and centre of the flower are hairy. Now, another 
> darker flower of a similar size matches these keys too making me suspect it 
> could be a variant of the same species but there are several of these on the 
> slopes. The third in our sample is the largest in size, has a large lower 
> petal, is darker violet, has virtually no hair, and has pointed leaves. 
> 
> My guess is the following;
> 
> The whiter flower with blunt leaves is Viola canescens.
> The darker flower with similar characteristics is either the same or V. 
> pilosa or a hybrid.
> The largest flower with a large lower petal could again be V. indica (but has 
> no sweet smell)V. pilosa or V. odorata (but odorata has blunt leaves)
> 
> Of course these can be completely different from my assumptions too. My main 
> reference is Flowers of the Himalaya by O. Polunin and A. Stainton. I also 
> looked up flowersofindia.net (which is now down as reported by Ushadi) and 
> searched for Viola species on the internet.
> 
> I leave you with the following images for your expert counsel.
> 
> 
> Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
> 1750m
> 20 March 2015
> 
> Thanks.
> Ashwini
> 
> Please note the leaf shapes and the lower petals in the first two pictures.
> <_MG_0182_20March15.jpg><_MG_0188_20March15.jpg>
> <_MG_0237_20March15.jpg>
> 
> This is the same flower as in the second picture.
> <_MG_0204_20March15.jpg>
> 
> Similar flowers of different shades;
> <_MG_0211_20March15.jpg><_MG_0217_20March15.jpg>
> 
> The flower from the first photo;
> <_MG_0218_20March15.jpg>
> 
> All together. The one on the right is the largest in size but doesn't appear 
> so because of withering slightly. While the left tow have their lower lip 
> pointing up, this one has its lip which is clearly larger than the other two 
> pointing left.
> <_MG_0246_20March15.jpg>
> 
> The two similar ones with different shade;
> 
> <PICT0329_20March15.jpg><PICT0337_20March15.jpg>
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