Thanks for that sir! Should make it handy for when I check the plant up close. :)
On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 10:17 PM, surajit koley < [email protected]> wrote: > So, the ball is again in my court! > Well, Anurag ji, I ordered the book just after sending you reply-mail, in > this very thread, on the 1st June, received on 8th (not because of > *eriostoma* but because of *aspera*)! > > The 'foreword' informs the genus is highly polymorphic, individuals of a > species also show great range of morphological variations! > > It is really impossible for me to arrive any conclusion. Instead - > > - leaf 5-10 x 0.5-4 cm, veins 5-7 pairs, very oblique; flower whorls > 1-2.5 cm = *eriostoma* var. *eriostoma* > - leaf 2.5-4 x ?? cm, veins ?????; flower whorls 1-2 cm = *eriostoma* var. > *lanata* > - leaf 3-12 x 0.5-2 cm, ???????; flower whorls 1.5-4 cm = *stelligera* > > This much I can do! > > Thank you > Regards > surajit koley > a *non-botanist* member of > efloraofIndia google group > > On Thu, Jun 11, 2015 at 9:20 PM, Anurag N. Sharma <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> Probably wont be getting the monograph any time soon sir. >> Thank you for the key. >> >> I will keep this in mind when I get the plant. I perhaps should also >> start writing down the descriptions of the live plant as I see it myself. >> This would save a lot of time for when we both are pouring over keys and >> wondering if may this or that feature could be described in this way or the >> other. >> >> On Wed, Jun 10, 2015 at 10:30 PM, surajit koley < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Anurag Ji, >>> >>> If you have/going to have the monograph please skip the rest of the >>> mail. ...... else - >>> >>> I realize simply having a book is not sufficient for me to identify >>> certain difficult species, that too unseen/unknown before. >>> >>> >>> - problem areas of *Leucas eriostoma* >>> >>> According to the monograph Karnataka has two - *L. eriostoma* var. >>> *eriostoma* and *L. e. *var. *lanata*. >>> One KEY says *L. eriostoma* var. *eriostoma* should have two whorls at >>> most (there are 3 whorls in 100001.jpg). >>> But the description says whorls terminal & axillary, illustration shows >>> one branch having three whorls. >>> Calyx tube ribbed and hispid in the upper part *glabrous* in lower >>> region (calyx in these pics are throughout hairy). >>> >>> Another KEY, where flowers are in more than two axillary whorls, informs >>> - >>> (i) calyx teeth stellately spreading, recurved = *L. stelligera* >>> (ii) ....... erect or spreading but not stellately, not recurved = >>> *eriostoma* var. *eriostoma* (longer leaves, whorls upto 2.5 cm.) and >>> *eriostoma* var. *lanata* (having leaves upto 4 cm long, whorls upto >>> 2cm diam.). >>> >>> - problem area of *L. stelligera* >>> >>> I am not sure if calyx teeth in your pics can be called stellately >>> spreading (perhaps yes to certain degree) and recurved. >>> >>> As per the monograph *L. eriostoma* is not distributed in Maharashtra, >>> as is *Leucas lanata* ! >>> >>> Why don't you check - >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/m-Pw1IryaG8/MtyaXYOWqz4J? >>> >>> Thank you >>> Regards >>> surajit koley >>> a *non-botanist* member of >>> efloraofIndia google group >>> >>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 9:08 PM, surajit koley < >>> [email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Will be happy to know ID(s) of all pending *Leucas*, thank you Anurag >>>> Ji. >>>> >>>> Thank you >>>> Regards >>>> surajit koley >>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>> >>>> On Thu, Jun 4, 2015 at 8:15 PM, Anurag N. Sharma < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Thank you once again sir. >>>>> I may purchase the book soon. >>>>> Will let you know. >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 9:27 PM, surajit koley < >>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Without book like >>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/ugPA0p8vIF4/TzIXJ_o5IV4J, >>>>>> better BSI publication, I am afraid I could do anything at all. Let >>>>>> professionals have their say. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>>>> >>>>>> On Mon, Jun 1, 2015 at 7:40 PM, Anurag Sharma <[email protected] >>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Thank you sir. >>>>>>> I will be visiting Agumbe this month. I'll return with exact >>>>>>> measurements and further details of this plant. It grows roadside in the >>>>>>> village there. Maybe the descriptions might help then or we could make >>>>>>> our >>>>>>> own key between the two species and the varieties then. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 11:03 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> There are problems ... one is - >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-111699 >>>>>>>> - http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-111704 >>>>>>>> - And FBI var. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Without BSI KEY I am unable to proceed further. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>>>>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sun, May 31, 2015 at 10:13 PM, Anurag Sharma < >>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The calyx tube's teeth look different from what I have clicked >>>>>>>>> when compared to Alka ma'am's photos of *Leucas stelligera* >>>>>>>>> validated by Dr. Sunoj Kumar. >>>>>>>>> Can I take it as* Leucas eriostoma* instead? It looks closer to >>>>>>>>> that species. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 7:13 PM, surajit koley < >>>>>>>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Two professionals are here, I should not express my view. I can >>>>>>>>>> only say that in a similar looking post by Anurag Ji >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/AXNCPoyiEa0/EptEdpjAzEQJ> >>>>>>>>>> I suggested something, but presently I have developed doubt. I >>>>>>>>>> simply do >>>>>>>>>> not know. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> One thread by Alka Ji >>>>>>>>>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/qEFnc8mx-Ms/8TDgWaPJjrwJ >>>>>>>>>> have >>>>>>>>>> been validated by Dr. Sunoj Ji >>>>>>>>>> <https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/x5uNQFgoKik/ZFIxa5rPy_IJ>, >>>>>>>>>> please check if that can help. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thank you >>>>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>>>> surajit koley >>>>>>>>>> a *non-botanist* member of >>>>>>>>>> efloraofIndia google group >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 12:08 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>>>> Leucas stelligera, perhaps. >>>>>>>>>>> Vijay >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Leucas eriostoma- from Santhan ji. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> efi page on Leucas stelligera >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lamiaceae/leucas/leucas-stelligera> >>>>>>>>>>> & Leucas eriostoma >>>>>>>>>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/lamiaceae/leucas/leucas-eriostoma> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>>>> From: Anurag Sharma <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>>>> Date: 13 May 2015 at 22:36 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:223864] ANMAY08/34 Lamiaceae (Incl. >>>>>>>>>>> Verbenaceae) Fortnight: Leucas sp. for identification (2) >>>>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Family: Lamiaceae >>>>>>>>>>> Date: May 2015 >>>>>>>>>>> Place: Agumbe, Karnataka >>>>>>>>>>> Habit: Herb >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the >>>>>>>>>>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from >>>>>>>>>>> it, send an email to [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>>>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>>>>>>>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>>>>>>>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more >>>>>>>>>>> than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, >>>>>>>>>>> Butterflies, >>>>>>>>>>> Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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