Raghu ji Correct spellings are Ziziphus and not Zizyphus. Please note that Indian jujube, Indian plum and Indian cherry is correctly Z. mauritiana Lam (earlier known as Z. jujuba Lam. for Indian plants), where as Chinese jujube, Chinese plum is correctly Z. jujuba Mill. Just to clarify Z. jujuba Mill., 1768 and Z. jujuba Lam, 1789 are homonyms (same name for two different species), former being earlier (earlier or senior homonym) is accepted where as latter (later or junior homonym) is rejected and name Z. mauritiana selected for Indian jujube. I will try to make it simpler if things are not clear
-- Dr. Gurcharan Singh Associate Professor SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ On Wed, Feb 17, 2010 at 2:57 PM, Pardeshi S. <[email protected]>wrote: > Fortunately i regularly gets ac hance to eat them as most of the time > in am on field. > enjoyed this Ber during my field trips to Maharashtra and Binar > forest. > other fruits that were commonly available in the forest were Zizyphus > oenoplea, Rhus mysorensis, Phyllanthus emblica, Aegle marmelos nad > Feronia limonia. i feel lucky. > > Thanx Raghu anant ji for such mail > > Regqards > Satish Pardeshi > > On Feb 17, 11:02 am, ranjini kamath <[email protected]> wrote: > > Hello Raghu ji This mail has revived lost memories!This was a > > childhood [& teen-age years too! ] favourite when we lived in Bihar.We > > called the berries 'kulpakka' in Hindi-or it could have been the > > Bihari equivalent ?-and 'borums in schoolgirl English.Nice to see > > this after a long,long time:) > > Thanks!! > > Ranjini Kamath > > > > On 2/17/10, raghu ananth <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Zizyphus jujuba > > > Fam: Rhamnaceae > > > English: Indian jujube, Indian Plum, Indian Cherry > > > Hindi: Ber > > > Sanskrit: Badri > > > Kannada: Elachi, Elache, Echhi, Bor`e (?) > > > Tamil: Elanthai Pazham > > > Telugu: regu pandu or rekkayalu > > > > > Of stolen plums and hard > > > beatings! > > > > > It’s been decades since I came across the Indian plum tree. And > > > after I became a member of Indiatree pix group, I was eager to share > > > pictures of this tree. But, Sadly, like many other trees, this tree has > > > almost vanished from my town for > > > some time now. Very few trees are found even in the nearby villages > > > surrounding > > > my town. Thanks mainly to the tobacco growers and tree cutting > contractors > > > for they spare no trees. > > > > > Some trees revive forgotten memories of school days. For instance > during > > > intervals/after school,we used to > > > get attracted by the ripe (red colored) or even partially ripe (green) > > > fruits sold > > > mostly by old women from villages . These women collect fruits in the > > > morning, spread > > > them on a gunny bag, sitting under a shady tree along the road to > schools. > > > Then they sell it to school children after sprinkling on them a mixture > of > > > salt > > > and chilly powder. Every one relished this fruit - a mouth watering > taste > > > indeed. > > > > > However, rather than spend money to taste these yum berries, it > > > was more fun when we expended our energies to be able to get our hands > on > > > them. > > > It proved to be a favourite pastime of ours as well. The backyards of > the > > > houses of the road adjoining ours boasted many of these trees. Sundays > and > > > other holidays (we had to cut or make a way through the tall and thick > milk > > > hedges to reach the plum tree) were spent under this tree, throwing > stones > > > or shaking the tree > > > branches and collecting the fallen fruits. Sometimes, the owner of the > tree > > > would materialize silently from some place and then try to catch one of > us > > > and > > > give a sound thrashing courtesy the branch/twig of a small tree. The > stones > > > we > > > threw would sometimes damage the thatched roofs. > > > > > /* > > > On increasing wood demands tobacco demands > > > > > During my birding & tree sighting trips, I sometime try to know & > > > photograph old and heritage trees. Soon, I find it tough to sight > trees and > > > realize there are hardly any trees which are more than 20 years old, > other > > > than those found near temples, railway stations, various government > premises > > > and exclusive farms. Thanks to the tobacco growers and contractors for > they > > > spare no trees. They buy trees from farmers, growing anywhere in the > open > > > fields, farms, canal, river edges, schools and even the road side > trees. The > > > wood logs are later taken to be burnt in kilns to dry tobacco leaves. > > > With international demand for the locally grown tobacco (FCV – Flue > cured > > > Virginia, Mysore tobacco) leaves increasing and prices soaring from Rs. > > > 48/kg (year 2006) to Rs 95/- (year 2008) and upto Rs. 150/kg this year, > > > there is less chance for the trees to inhabit the earth. > > > It’s a known fact that once tobacco plants are grown in agricultural > fields > > > for couple of years, the land loses its ability to grow other crops. > > > > > Sometimes I wonder as if the native trees have lost their rights to > > > completing their full life span thanks again to the meddling of human > > > beings. ) > > > > > */ > > > > > Date/Time-12 Feb 2009 > > > Location- Place, Altitude, GPS- Chandagal Village, Krishnaraja nagar, > Mysore > > > district, Karnataka > > > Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- Planted along farm fence of > arecanut / > > > Banana/Coconut plantations. > > > Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb- Tall Tree > > > Height/Length-Quite tall, Around 50 feet > > > Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size- xx/round, small size > > > Inflorescence Type/ Size- > > > Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-No flowers found now, wait till > April. > > > Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds- Eatable,tasty, Round, <3cm > > > Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.-Sweet > attractive > > > fragrance, many small birds were found singing in this tree. > > > > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jujube > > > > http://www.kamalascorner.com/2008/12/indian-jujube-elanthai-pazham.html > > > > > efloraindia database: To be added. > > > > > Regards > > > Raghu > > > > > The INTERNET now has a personality. 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