We have spent quite some time on finding what is *Nymphaea rubra* Roxb. ex
Andrews. Now BSI will help us find -
http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=1592&type=3.

I hope this is the species we were looking for.

And as I wrote in my earlier reply - this thread
https://groups.google.com/d/msg/indiantreepix/JdflalC07Kg/FkzRNND-8s0J too.

Thank you
Regards
surajit koley
a *non-botanist* member of
efloraofIndia google group

On Sun, Dec 21, 2014 at 9:26 PM, surajit koley <
[email protected]> wrote:

> This set of photographs are from a place near Burdwan, recorded today.
> This may be the same species as the originals in this thread. The only
> difference is leaves are both red or green or reddish green.
>
> This is semi-wild, semi in the sense that one villager says, "Years ago we
> had planted one plant collected elsewhere, thereafter it covered the entire
> pool."
>
> Thank you
> Regards
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 9:31 PM, surajit koley <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Thank you Garg Sir, thanks to Santhan Ji. I have developed a doubt if we
>> have any *N. rubra* in our database at all, in fact none of the posts
>> shows red flowers, all are shades of pink, only the one by Balkar Sir
>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!msg/indiantreepix/JdflalC07Kg/FkzRNND-8s0J>
>> may be called close to red (anthers only).
>> Regards
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 5:49 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan <[email protected]>
>>> Date: 20 November 2014 17:46
>>> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:205642] Hooghly : Nymphaea lotus var.
>>> pubescens (Willd.) Hook. f. & Thomson
>>> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>
>>> *Nymphaea* *rubra* Roxb. ex Andrews
>>>
>>> On Thu, Nov 20, 2014 at 4:29 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>>
>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>> This needs some further investigation. N. pubescens is characterised by
>>>> sharply dentate leaves (which it has) and pubescent leaf under surface (it
>>>> is glabrous here). Can you check with original description of N. rubra for
>>>> leaf under surface.
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>
>>>> Thank you Sir, i have also noted the point (leaf under surface), that
>>>> is why i followed the FoC where the site informs, "cultivated forms of var.
>>>> *pubescence* with red flowers, originating from India....", thinking
>>>> that cultivated forms may have variable character (s).
>>>> However, Flora Indica records -
>>>> 1) *N. rubra* R. : Leaves sub-orbicular, margins sharply
>>>> sinuate-toothed, downy underneath. Flowers red...... A native of India. It
>>>> flowers during the rainy season, In Bengal there is a smaller rose coloured
>>>> variety (differs in numbers of stamens & stigma rays).
>>>> 2) *N. lotus* Willd.. 2. 1153 : Leaves orbicularly peltate, sharply
>>>> sinuate toothed, downy underneath..... It differs from *N. rubra* in
>>>> the colour of the flowers only. There is a beautiful rare variety with pink
>>>> coloured flowers..... the white sorts is found common in pools,... it
>>>> flowers more or less the whole year......
>>>> 3) *N. versicolor* R. : Leaves oval, peltate, repand-dentate.... A
>>>> native of Bengal, ...two varieties, ...one pure white and the other pink of
>>>> various shades.
>>>> Compared to above entry by Haines :-
>>>> *N. lotus* L. : Leaves usually pubescent beneath.... (two var.) *lotus* 
>>>> proper
>>>> and *rubra*.
>>>> Compared to above the author(s) of http://archive.lib.cmu.ac.
>>>> th/full/T/2008/biol0708wl_ch3.pdf informs (in Thailand) leaves of *N.
>>>> rubra* Roxb. ex Salisb. orbicular, dark reddish both above and below,
>>>> becoming greenish above with age, below pubescent; veins about 9 pairs....
>>>> Attached here larger photographs for your perusal.
>>>> Thank you very much for taking care.
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Suarjit
>>>>
>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>> From: surajit koley <[email protected]>
>>>> Date: 8 November 2014 23:01
>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:205642] Hooghly : Nymphaea lotus var. pubescens
>>>> (Willd.) Hook. f. & Thomson
>>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> I have used the name as found in FoC. This may be cultivated, found
>>>> today beside a busy dusty road near Uttarpara.
>>>> Thank you
>>>> Regards
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