Ma'am, This is what I get as "source database" of names.
Thank you Regards (simply) surajit koley ! no "Sir", no "Dr.", no "Ji" ! On 7 October 2015 at 23:25, Carmelita <[email protected]> wrote: > surajit koley, > Thank you for answering my question as to why the C. tomentosa (L.) L. was > omitted from your list of possibles. > > I believe that the Catalogue of Life is updated monthly, if my > understanding is correct and draws information from many sources, not only > from Kew. Ah, but that may be a conversation for a different day and on a > different forum. > http://www.catalogueoflife.org/content/contributors > > It was enjoyable having this conversation with you, but now I will step > away from this conversation so others with more experience can assist in > the identification of this plant. > greene/Carmelita > > > On Wed, Oct 7, 2015 at 12:58 PM, surajit koley < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> Dear Madam, >> >> I am also a non-botanist member. In fact I dare say we the non-botanist >> members are doing much better than the most botanists in this group (Dear >> botanist members, please do not get angry)! Without providing every detail, >> without using any ruler, most of our botanist (including taxonomist) >> members just submit a couple of images in order to get the species >> identified. This kind of identification is possible only for known/common >> species. >> >> Also, I think even an authentic site can have wrongly identified species. >> Our own group is an example (of course our moderators would tell you that >> all species id gets correctly identified eventually ... it may even take a >> couple of years though!). >> >> Interestingly the site, "Catalogue of Life" draws its reference from KEW >> database! >> >> Now, something on *C. tomentosa* (L.) L. - >> >> - is it *C. tomentosa* (L.) L. or *C. tomentosa* (L.) Murr. >> <http://indiabiodiversity.org/species/show/8552> ? >> - check distribution of the taxon - >> http://www.biotik.org/india/species/c/calltome/calltome_en.html >> - please also check the above with GRIN - >> http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?420065#dist >> - GRIN >> <http://www.ars-grin.gov/cgi-bin/npgs/html/taxon.pl?420065#dist> says >> the species is native to China, yet China eflora >> >> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=2&taxon_id=105098#KEY-1-2> >> doesn't feature it! >> - FoI >> >> <http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Velvety%20Beauty%20Berry.html> >> doesn't care to provide author citation. instead it only copies from >> TPL <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-31012?ref=tpl1> or >> other sources! >> >> However, biotik description >> <http://www.biotik.org/india/species/c/calltome/calltome_en.html> will >> tell you that the species I have submitted is not *C. tomentosa* >> (whatever it may be!). >> >> >> Thank you >> Regards >> (simply) surajit koley >> ! no "Sir", no "Dr.", no "Ji" ! >> >> >> On 7 October 2015 at 08:10, greene <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Surajit ji, >>> Thank you for the question. I do not use or trust "The Plant List" but >>> I checked the link you provided at it shows only one C. tomentosa L. as the >>> accepted name. The others listed are synonyms, three of which are >>> illegitimate. >>> >>> I prefer to trust "The Catalogue of Life" which is updated more >>> frequently. Please check here and you will see only one C. tomentosa as the >>> accepted name. >>> http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/search/all/key/callicarpa+tomentosa/fossil/1/match/1 >>> >>> The plant may be, as you say C. macrophylla, but since C. tomentosa L. >>> is similar and is found in the Indian Subcontinent, Myanmar, Thailand, >>> Malaya and the seeds are dispersed by birds the plant can spread quite >>> easily. I had only wondered why it was not on your list of possibilities. >>> http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Velvety%20Beauty%20Berry.html >>> Will you be able to photograph the fruit as the fruit color can also be >>> useful to know. >>> I am not a botanist and I apologize if I have said too much. >>> Regards, >>> greene/Carmelita >>> >>> On Tuesday, October 6, 2015 at 1:32:19 PM UTC-4, surajitkoley wrote: >>>> >>>> Thank you Madam, but of several *C. tomentosa* >>>> <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=Callicarpa+tomentosa> which >>>> one I'm supposed to search? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> surajit >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tuesday, 6 October 2015 07:49:10 UTC+5:30, greene wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Please, >>>>> Since I live in the USA I only have the Callicarpa americana in my >>>>> garden. I use the leaves to repel insects and the fruit to make jelly. >>>>> I am not a botanist but please is there some reason why you did not >>>>> include the C. tomentosa in your list of possibles? I hope it is permitted >>>>> for me to post this link so you may see a C. tomentosa photo. >>>>> https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Callicarpa_Tomentosa_17.JPG >>>>> Thank you, >>>>> greene/Carmelita >>>>> >>>>> On Monday, October 5, 2015 at 12:46:48 PM UTC-4, surajitkoley wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I am not familiar with this genus, *Callicarpa*. I photographed >>>>>> these pics on 24-Sept-2015. I waited for flowers and today i noticed tiny >>>>>> pink flowers, possibly 4-merous (well, i am still doing without glasses, >>>>>> but time has come to get one!). >>>>>> >>>>>> Unfortunately I didn't have camera with me. Hope i will get flower >>>>>> pictures tomorrow. But, not guaranteed, for there were only two specimen, >>>>>> on the 24th last month, in a bamboo thicket whereas today there was only >>>>>> one. Because, this is the time when villagers collect fuelwood by >>>>>> removing >>>>>> all sorts of weeds. >>>>>> >>>>>> It's only 1.5 ft herb, may grow to a shrub if kept alive! There is >>>>>> scarcely any trunk, base is woody. Stem cannot be called 4-angled. Entire >>>>>> plant is woolly. Leaf blades are 15cm or more long, petiole around 2 cm. >>>>>> >>>>>> Bengal Plants lists - >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. *C. arborea* Roxb. = a tree in Bihar, N,. Bengal, Tirhut, >>>>>> Chittagong >>>>>> 2. *C. cana* L. = a large shrub, often cultivated, occasionally >>>>>> naturalised in Central Bengal >>>>>> 3. *C. macrophylla* Vahl. = 3-8 ft shrub, in all provinces >>>>>> 4. *C. longifolia* Lam. var. *lanceolaria* = a shrub, Central >>>>>> Bengal, Tippera, Chittagong >>>>>> >>>>>> Botany of Bihar & Orissa licts - >>>>>> >>>>>> 1. *C. arborea* Roxb. >>>>>> 2. *C. macrophylla* Vahl. >>>>>> >>>>>> Thank you >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> surajit >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to a topic in the >>> Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>> To unsubscribe from this topic, visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/topic/indiantreepix/U7TjFnn3-ZI/unsubscribe. >>> To unsubscribe from this group and all its topics, send an email to >>> [email protected]. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> Visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>> >> >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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