'Just continuing the thread....attaching pictures of both UnIded 
Dalbergia..'

Any final id on the unidentified plant?

Rgds,




On Friday, June 25, 2010 at 5:19:31 PM UTC+5:30, Satish Phadke wrote:
>
> Just continuing the thread....attaching pictures of both UnIded 
> Dalbergia(From above thread) along with Dalbergia lanceolaria(Known plant) 
> which flowers in April.
> Sorry for the first picture I had to to fix the closed leaflets with 
> fevistick on the paper for taking photograph and needed to post process it 
> further.
> Dr Phadke
>
> On 23 June 2010 20:12, Rashida Atthar <[email protected] <javascript:>> 
> wrote:
>
>> A very robust and gregariously flowering tree  Dr. Vijayasankar ji.! 
>> Seems to be matching, Dr. Almeida's flora has leaf description of 
>> D.paniculata Roxb. as "leaflets 9-15, rigidly subcoriaceous, 2-2.5 by 1-2 
>> cm, obovate, oblong or elliptic, obtuse, emarginate , glabrous; petioles 
>> 1-2 mm long."
>>
>> Your leaves look retuse  to me maybe just a variation?  The pods with 
>> long stalks matches in both the sets. But the flowers are too tiny to see 
>> the details. Your set appears more greenish white, whereas Satish ji's more 
>> bluish white. Will be good  to get more observations and comments on this.  
>>
>> regards,
>> Rashida.
>>
>>
>>
>>   On Wed, Jun 23, 2010 at 6:12 AM, R. Vijayasankar <[email protected] 
>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi, i am attaching pictures of *Dalbergia paniculata* for comparison. 
>>>  
>>> Any comment on the id pl?
>>>
>>> With regards
>>>
>>> R. Vijayasankar
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 11:19 AM, Rashida Atthar <[email protected] 
>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Ok, here's the description for D. paniculata Roxb...." Corollas 8 mm 
>>>> long, bluish-white; standard oblong, emarginate, 3-4 mm broad, with a claw 
>>>> about as long as the tube of the calyx and without  any callosity at the 
>>>> base...." Hope this helps. 
>>>>
>>>> regards,
>>>> Rashida.    
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 9:08 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected] 
>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I agree with you Rashida.You have checked all points(Which I also 
>>>>> think are correct) from your flora. This is a nice, not very big but 
>>>>> definitely one, a tree and not a scandent shrub.
>>>>> Dr Phadke 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 22 June 2010 21:00, Rashida Atthar <[email protected] 
>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> If the plant is not a scandent shrub than  D. horrida can be ruled 
>>>>>> out. Besides, yes in your pics leaflets are paripinnate, whereas D. 
>>>>>> horrida 
>>>>>> are supposed to be imparipinnate. I think if it is a tree than it comes 
>>>>>> close to D. paniculata Roxb. according to Dr. Almeida's flora. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>> Rashida. 
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 8:43 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected] 
>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am not convinced with *D.horrida* yet.
>>>>>>> I think the leaflets don't match here. In my tree leaflets though 
>>>>>>> not opposite are not imparipinnate but I think they are paripinnate.
>>>>>>> Needs further study here.
>>>>>>> It still appears closer to *D.horrida var.concanensis*
>>>>>>> Dr Phadke 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 22 June 2010 20:31, Rashida Atthar <[email protected] 
>>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> According to Dr. Almeida's flora of Mah. D. horrida (Dennst. ex 
>>>>>>>> Fortsetz) Mabberley is a large scandent shrub running over high trees. 
>>>>>>>> Request Satish ji to inform about this.  
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> regards,
>>>>>>>> Rashida. 
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 6:03 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected] 
>>>>>>>> <javascript:>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Some earlier relevant feedback:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> “I too think this is Dalbergia lanceolaria !! But not sure about 
>>>>>>>>> the sub species
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> Tanay”
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> “yes this Dalbergia lanceolaria var.paniculata
>>>>>>>>> marathi name फणशी  ” from Ajinkya ji.
>>>>>>>>>  
>>>>>>>>> "This is *D. horrida (Dennst.) Mabb. syn D. sympathetica Nimmo* 
>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>> Shrikant"
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>>>>>>>> From: Satish Phadke <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>>>>>>>>> Date: 8 June 2010 21:26
>>>>>>>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:37707] Dalbergia species for ID
>>>>>>>>> To: indiantreepix <[email protected] <javascript:>>
>>>>>>>>> Cc: Shrikant Ingalhalikar <[email protected] <javascript:>>, 
>>>>>>>>> Neil Soares <[email protected] <javascript:>>, Dinesh Valke <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>>, Mandar Datar <
>>>>>>>>> [email protected] <javascript:>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I was following this tree on Vetal Tekdi for a very long time.
>>>>>>>>> At one place it was wrongly labelled as *Albizia odoratissima*.
>>>>>>>>> Ultimately I could catch the flowering and could capture the data 
>>>>>>>>> and photographs in the visits in last week till today.
>>>>>>>>> The venation on the leaflets is reticulate.Very few trees are 
>>>>>>>>> flowering.
>>>>>>>>> I think this tree has to be *Dalbergia lanceolaria. 
>>>>>>>>> ssp.paniculata.*
>>>>>>>>> There are plenty of *Dalbergia lanceolaria ssp lanceolaria* trees 
>>>>>>>>> nearby which flower in March,April. but this set appears to be 
>>>>>>>>> different.
>>>>>>>>> The flowers are also pure white and much smaller.
>>>>>>>>> Please validate.
>>>>>>>>> Dr Phadke
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