Dear Mr. Kokate, Thanks for the id.
Checked online and the plant is Drimia indica. Regards Pravir On Sun, Feb 21, 2016 at 5:19 PM, Darshan Kokate <darshankok...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear Pravir sending images of Drimia -onions in all stages of > development regards Darshan Kokate > > On Sat, Feb 20, 2016 at 9:26 AM, Pravir Deshmukh <prav...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Dear Ushadi, >> >> Sorry for the delayed reply. >> >> The plant is from Rajasthan and during this seasons no leaf and flowers >> are available. The impact on human was given by a local person and he >> didn't allow me to touch the bulbs. >> The locals also not using this for any medical preparation. >> >> The Colchicum sp. are mostly from the Himalayan region and having small >> bulb. This bulb is of various size and resembles like white big onion. >> >> Hope the above information will help in identifying the plant species. >> >> Thanks and Regards >> >> Pravir Deshmukh >> >> ------------------------------ >> From: Ushadi Micromini >> Sent: 20-02-2016 AM 04:36 >> To: J.M. Garg; Ushadi Micromini >> Cc: efloraofindia; Pravir Deshmukh >> Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:239466] Allium species from Rajasthan >> >> any response from Pravir? >> >> Silence when I give opinion bothers me. >> Even if you disagree tell me >> tell me why >> that would be science >> >> no matter if you agree or not >> >> collegiality is expected >> >> if any personal problem, tell me I'll understand >> but.... >> >> usha di >> >> On Wed, Feb 17, 2016 at 9:56 AM, Ushadi Micromini < >> microminipho...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Gargji and Pravir who submitted this case... >>> >>> I have been wondering about this bulb, first rejected the case as no >>> data in no data out kind of case ... but it lingered in my consciousness >>> ... more as a a challenge.. since ....Deep in the recesses of memory it >>> said its the gout medicine bulb... very poisonous. >>> >>> itching is common when crystals are readily available to effect skin... >>> such as in roots/fingers of Gloriosa lily and autumn crocus... COLCHICINE >>> is the culprit... >>> >>> >>> But the member who submitted this gave no other information... >>> was it looked for by him or was it accidental discovery >>> or >>> did some local farmer or laborer or a student bring it to his attention >>> ???? >>> >>> was someone poisoned??? >>> >>> ...such details are important ...to know and must accompany the case >>> when submitted ... Then it would not have perhaps languished in unknown >>> territory for seven days...!!!!! >>> >>> >>> Back to my memory bank and question arose: would it grow in Rajasthan a >>> desert state? >>> >>> googling got me the answers to my memory recesses and the desert question >>> >>> Its most likely the Autum crocus or meadow saffron... flowers lack the >>> magenta stigma of true saffron crocus flowers. >>> >>> >>> >>> *This is most likely Colchicum autumanle or Colchicum lueum ....family >>> Colchicaceae of Liliales order.* >>> >>> >>> *c. autumnale is found in Eur-asian regions...* >>> >>> *the bulb referred to in old vernacular Ayurvedic books is Colchicum >>> luteum..* >>> >>> Ancients knew of it, to use as a herbal remedy for gout... >>> and even the bible has a quote about it... >>> *I quote ...* >>> The desert and the parched land will be glad; the wilderness will >>> rejoice and blossom. Like the crocus, it will burst into bloom; it will >>> rejoice greatly and shout for joy. Isaiah 35:1-2 - >>> >>> * "" end quote >>> <http://www.gardenindelight.com/blooming-deserts/#sthash.If6SC1UD.dpuf>* >>> *and Ayurveda calls it Hiranyatuttha see book * >>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=njLtCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=colchicum+autumnale++indian+name&source=bl&ots=dFJO3hfe-k&sig=1cSPulRXxgiAH-0Kbdg_yqzfOSk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjyeGT9_3KAhUUVo4KHf2-DXMQ6AEIMDAD#v=onepage&q=colchicum%20autumnale%20%20indian%20name&f=false>Indian >>> Herbal Remedies: Rational Western Therapy, Ayurvedic and Other ... >>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=njLtCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=colchicum+autumnale++indian+name&source=bl&ots=dFJO3hfe-k&sig=1cSPulRXxgiAH-0Kbdg_yqzfOSk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjyeGT9_3KAhUUVo4KHf2-DXMQ6AEIMDAD#v=onepage&q=colchicum%20autumnale%20%20indian%20name&f=false>* >>> by CP Khare * >>> <https://books.google.co.in/books?id=njLtCAAAQBAJ&pg=PA157&lpg=PA157&dq=colchicum+autumnale++indian+name&source=bl&ots=dFJO3hfe-k&sig=1cSPulRXxgiAH-0Kbdg_yqzfOSk&hl=en&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjjyeGT9_3KAhUUVo4KHf2-DXMQ6AEIMDAD#v=onepage&q=colchicum%20autumnale%20%20indian%20name&f=false> >>> >>> *i need to run, cant type up the vernacular books names citations etc >>> etc etc ... you have to search yourself...* >>> >>> very toxic, behaving as arsenic and other toxins, no known antidote per >>> wikipedia. <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colchicum_autumnale> >>> >>> Hope this helps >>> >>> Usha di >>> >>> >>> ===== >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Feb 15, 2016 at 11:27 AM, J.M. Garg <jmga...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id assistance please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> it may be bulb of Drimia spp >>>> regards >>>> Darshan Koakte >>>> >>>> Drimia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/ar/asparagaceae/drimia> >>>> species >>>> so far in efi >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: Pravir Deshmukh <prav...@gmail.com> >>>> Date: 10 February 2016 at 17:31 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:239466] Allium species from Rajasthan >>>> To: efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Member, >>>> >>>> Please help in identification of *Allium *species collected from the >>>> Rajasthan. >>>> >>>> The Bulb is having itching effect if comes in contact to human body. >>>> >>>> Location: Radiyawas, Rajasthan (60 km from the Ajmer) >>>> Area : Forest are having scrubby vegetation. >>>> >>>> Habitat: Hill Slopes with low soil depth >>>> >>>> Thanks and Regards >>>> -- >>>> प्रविर कृष्णराव देशमुख >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send >>>> an email to indiantreepix+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>>> To post to this group, send email to indiantreepix@googlegroups.com. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. >>>> For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> With regards, >>>> J.M.Garg >>>> >>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >>>> >>>> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >>>> >>>> For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian >>>> Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group >>>> <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in >>>> the world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or >>>> Efloraofindia >>>> website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species >>>> database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). >>>> >>>> The whole world uses my Image Resource >>>> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >>>> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >>>> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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