Thank you Mr Garg. I agree that this genus is tricky and mistakes are bound to creep up. I am not even sure if my previous photo on efi is V. pilosa or not. I will keep trying.
Regards, Ashwini > On 4 Mar 2016, at 09:44, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Ashwini ji, > Viola serpens > <https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/taxonomydetail.aspx?id=41782> Wall. > ex Ging.is a synonym of Viola pilosa Blume as per GRIN > <https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/taxonomydetail.aspx?id=101104>, > Tropicos <http://www.tropicos.org/Name/33801418?tab=synonyms> & The Plant > List Ver. 1.1 <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-33801418>. > So you can rely on this. > > FOI is not meant to give exact synonyms (as author citations were generally > not mentioned though some efforts have been made lately in this regard)- It > is better to consult efi site > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/v/violaceae/viola/viola-pilosa> > in this matter as it is regularly updated & re-looked whenever there are > issues in this regard on the forum. Further there can be mistakes in species > identifications- particularly the difficult ones. > > On 3 March 2016 at 23:30, Ashwini Bhatia <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > These flowers are very abundant in our area (much more so than V. canescens) > and I find them scattered everywhere on the hill sides on my daily walks. I > have been seeing them since January but they started coming out in good > numbers around mid-February. These are larger lilac/lavender flowers with > broad lower lip and a hint of contrasting bright yellow around the stigma. > The runners are quite common and the stipules toothed. I have seen several > capsules with sepals and stigma still attached. The leaves and stems are > softly hairy but much less so than those of V. canescens. > > Now the troubling part. While typing this message and looking at my data > closely, I have managed to convince myself that I am not certain of its ID. > Here is why: > > Viola serpens is a synonym of Viola pilosa which is now the accepted name > according to the Plant List; > http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-33801418 > <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/tro-33801418> > > A search for V. pilosa on FlowersofIndia.net <http://flowersofindia.net/> > shows a completely different flower but Alok Mahendroo ji’s blog shows the > same flower as the one below under V. serpens. If they are synonyms then I am > baffled yet again. There is more—flowersofindia gives V. serpens as a synonym > also of V. indica (an unresolved name according to the Plant List), the > photos of which look very similar to my sample, but my flowers are definitely > not fragrant. It could be that V. pilosa has great variation in colour, size > and shape and that my sample is V. pilosa aka V. serpens. > > First here is a page from the Linnean Society Journal which lists V. > canescens as white and much smaller that V. serpens. My flower matches the > description of V. serpens. > > I am not sure how to proceed from here. Is my sample V. pilosa or a hybrid or > a local variation? Is it a variety of Viola canina? I am in great need of > expert advice. Please help. > > Thanks. > Ashwini > <Screen Shot 2016-03-03 at 22.57.59.png> > <80237.jpg> > <232617.jpg> > <_MG_1629_02Mar2016.jpg><_MG_1753_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1538_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1223_29Feb2016.jpg> > <_MG_0859_26Feb2016.jpg> > <_MG_1637_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1571_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1542_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1543_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_2040_03Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1638_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1601_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1578_02Mar2016.jpg> > <_MG_1589_02Mar2016.jpg> > > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix > <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix>. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout > <https://groups.google.com/d/optout>. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- more than 2500 members & 2,25,000 messages on 18.6.15) or > Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a > species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,00,000 images). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand > species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged > alphabetically & place-wise). 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