good idea, Satish
i will for my cases that i have
thanks
usha di

BUT COME TO THINK OF IT    DIGITAL CAMERAS ARE NOTORIOUS IN NOT GETTING THE
REDS IN TRUE COLOR  IE KEEPING THE AUTHENTIC  TRUE color of the flower
so how would we judge... unless we all carry a color checker card
<http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/465286-REG/X_Rite_MSCCC_Original_ColorChecker_Card.html>
...
to really  authenticate the red, oranges etc
just a thought



On Tue, May 24, 2016 at 12:55 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On close observation of different pictures on Cassia site
> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/f/fabaceae/cassia/cassia-renigera>
> I found one important character which may turn out to be useful in forming
> a key.
> THE COLOUR OF STYLE(GYNOECIUM)
> In Cassia javanica it seems to be red throughout whereas in Cassia
> renigera it is green in most part whereas the terminal part including
> stigma is red in colour.
> I request all of you to check this coloration along with colour of calyx
> in all your pictures.
>
> Dr Satish Phadke
>
> On 24 May 2016 at 11:52, Ushadi Micromini <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> what a nice case... for thew query and analysis
>> love it
>> more important will copy the query and the answer..
>>
>> usha di
>>
>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 11:29 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks Gurcharan ji
>>> This is what I like . Experience.
>>> Which characters to be given importance the most.
>>> Once again Thank you so much
>>>
>>>
>>> On Monday 23 May 2016, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Kidney shaped stipules, velvety leaflets, glabrous ovary are enough to
>>>> separate it as C. renigera.
>>>> Stipule length may be 15-25 mm, I will change in the key.
>>>>
>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>> http://www.gurcharanfamily.com/
>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, May 23, 2016 at 8:44 PM, Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I am posting this plant again for review of proper ID
>>>>> This Cassia tree flowers in Pune city around this time (May every
>>>>> year) Most Cassia trees flowering at this time show almost same botanical
>>>>> characters apart from some colour variations.
>>>>> I referred the Key provided by Gurcharan ji to come to conclusion
>>>>> which I am still finding difficult.
>>>>> Will describe some observations first
>>>>> 1. Big tree 10 meters approx.
>>>>> 2. Leaves compound. Leaflets 9-12 pairs opposite.
>>>>> 3. Leaflet size 3-5cm x 1-2 cm
>>>>>     Surface velvetty. Petiole 2 cm Petolule 2-3 mm. Apex Acute/
>>>>> Obtuse Pl. opine
>>>>> 4. Stipules ? Leafy 5mm x 15 mm. ? reniform?
>>>>> 5. Basal leaves of the branches were lacking the stipules while all
>>>>> the apical branches had it
>>>>> 6. Calyx segments 5 Red
>>>>> 7. Corolla 5 segments alternating with calyx segments. Mostly 2.5 cm
>>>>> 8. Gynoecium 2.5 cm sickle shaped not glabrous( May be pubescent)with
>>>>> stigma red in colour.
>>>>> 9. Peduncle of flower 3 cm. Racemes with a lot many bracts and
>>>>> ?bracteoles.
>>>>> 10. Stamens 3 sets a) 3 small b) 4 medium c) 3 long stamens 2.5 cm
>>>>> dark yellow with a nodule in the centre of the filament of size 3 mm
>>>>>
>>>>> We have 3 known species of Pink Cassias with nodule in the filament.
>>>>> I found some character of each species in my below mentioned tree.
>>>>> a) Reniform stipules pointing to Cassia renigera but they should be
>>>>> more than 2.5 cm as per the key
>>>>> Here they are less than 2 cm broad to rule out C. renigera
>>>>> Now 2 species remain Cassia javanica ssp. javanica and
>>>>>                                      Cassia javanica ssp. nodosa.
>>>>> The differentiating key is based on size of stipule and tip of
>>>>> leaflets and calyx colours.
>>>>> Apart from tip which appears acute to me all 3 characters for Cassia
>>>>> javanica ssp javanica are matching here :: Stipule > 5mm leafy(In fact 15
>>>>> mm) Calyx red. Petals were 2.5 cm
>>>>> The colour of petals is white  a feature more of C.javanica ssp nodosa
>>>>>
>>>>> Please help in concluding.
>>>>> My mind now says that it is Cassia javanica ssp. javanica.
>>>>>
>>>>> Dr Satish Phadke
>>>>> ​​
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