In Surat what I see is this pink flower grows in urban as well as rural area with equal ease , cultivated fields as well as perimeter and roadside .........flower size less than 1 inch , funnel shaped , light to deep pink corolla , limb may be at right angle to tube or may be at an angle , 5 lobed with variable depth . ..........leaves are variable too , from cordate to shallow to deep trilobed , so much so they at times look hastate and color is usually green but may be purplish green , particularly in harsh summer . Given the chance this vine flowers year long and it is Ipomoea triloba .This is my observation of the species for you years . At times it can be confused with I. marginata but flowers are smaller in I. triloba . OK
On Tuesday, September 29, 2009 at 11:09:25 PM UTC+5:30, Pravin Kawale wrote: > > Hi, > Sorry for delay in reply > The flower size is aprox. 2 inches > Thanks > > On 9/27/09, Tabish <[email protected] <javascript:>> wrote: > > > > Good to see this lively discussion! > > The original reference for Ipomoe clarkei, Flora of British India, > > describes I. clarkei as having ovate-lanceshaped leaves. Leaves are > > deeply heart-shaped at the base, with a long pointed tip. It does not > > say anything at all about the leaves being 3-lobed. Also the flowers > > are described as being more than 1 inch in size, larger than Ipomoea > > obscura flowers, which many people would have seen: > > > > > http://www.flowersofindia.net/catalog/slides/Obscure%20Morning%20Glory.html > > (I sometimes get very irritated with botanists for not mentioning a > > simple thing like the color of the flower!) > > Now I am sure Niel's flowers are less than 2 cm (Neil, do let me > > know if it is otherwise). Also, the leaves are sometimes entire-heart- > > shaped and sometimes 3-lobed. Which makes me strongly believe it to be > > Ipomoea triloba. Maybe foreigners (exotics) have infilitrated Neil's > > property without him realizing it! ;-) > > Coming to Pravin's flower, the leaves seem to agree with the > > description if I. clarkei quite well, but the flowers *appear to be* > > large. Pravin, do you remember the approximate size of the flowers? > > The sepals of I. clarkei are supposed to be narrow, linear - a bud in > > Pravin's pic does show narrow linear sepals. > > I am very keen to know the identity of Pravin's flower - if it is > > indeed an Ipomoea, it would be the only yellow Ipomoea I know! > > Best wishes > > - Tabish > > > > On Sep 27, 12:15 pm, Satish Phadke <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Flowers of Ipomoea from diff. species may look similar. > >> I think what Neil is trying to stress is because of the leaf pattern in > >> his > >> plant which is in favour of *I. clarkei*. I think we request Neil to > send > >> some more pictures of the leaves esp. depicting petiole, bract if any > etc. > >> As per Mah BSI Flora(Sorry I don,t have Almeida's) > >> the plant of *I clarkei* are described as below > >> No mention of colour of flower ! > >> Leaves 5-9bye4-6 cm, broadly ovate, finely acuminate, hairy on both > >> surfaces, base deeply cordate with rounded lobes; petiole 2.5 to6 cm. > >> Inflorescence 1-3 flowered cyme.Peduncle 2-4cm long, slender. Bracts > >> minute, > >> lanceolate, acute, sparsely hairy and ciliate. Corolla 3-4 cm long. > >> Capsule > >> 1.5 cm long ovoid. > >> Waiting for opinions ..... > >> Satish Phadke > >> BTW attaching my picture of *I. triloba *clicked today in another mail. > >> > >> 2009/9/27 Prashant awale <[email protected]> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Dear Dinesh, > >> > Have a look at following Davesgarden link. > >> > >> >http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/171509/ > >> > >> > (This Ipomoea is very common and i could see many at the outskirts of > >> > Mumbai.) > >> > best wishes > >> > Prashant > >> > >> > On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Dinesh Valke > >> > <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >> >> Neil ji, Prashant, a pictorial reference I referred is > >> >>http://www.exot-nutz-zier.de/impressionen_convolvulaceae_i1.htm > >> >> Regards. > >> > >> >> On Sun, Sep 27, 2009 at 6:48 AM, Neil Soares > >> >> <[email protected]>wrote: > >> > >> >>> Hi Prashant, > >> >>> The plant featured in this link does not match the description > of > >> >>> Ipomea triloba given either in Ingalhalikar's or Dr. Almeida's > book. > >> >>> Regards, > >> >>> Neil. > >> > >> >>> --- On *Sat, 9/26/09, Prashant awale <[email protected]>* wrote: > >> > >> >>> From: Prashant awale <[email protected]> > >> >>> Subject: Re: [indiantreepix:19556] Re: Ipomoea clarkei > >> >>> To: "Neil Soares" <[email protected]> > >> >>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 11:13 PM > >> > >> >>> Dear Neil ji, > >> > >> >>> I had seen them many in and around Mumbai and even during few treks > in > >> >>> Panvel region. My ID was based on following "daves garden" > link... > >> >>>http://davesgarden.com/guides/pf/showimage/171509/ > >> > >> >>> I think, probably Dinesh also must have referred the same link.. > >> > >> >>> Thanks & best wishes > >> > >> >>> Prashant > >> > >> >>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 11:00 PM, Neil Soares > >> >>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> >>> > wrote: > >> > >> >>>> Thanks Prashant. Ipomea triloba is a naturalised exotic plant. > >> >>>> Generally don't have exotic plants on my property. > >> >>>> Regards, > >> >>>> Neil Soares. > >> > >> >>>> --- On *Sat, 9/26/09, Prashant awale > >> >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> >>>> >* wrote: > >> > >> >>>> From: Prashant awale > >> >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> > >> >>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:19556] Re: Ipomoea clarkei > >> >>>> To: "Neil Soares" > >> >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> > >> >>>> Cc: "Dinesh Valke" > >> >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]>>, > >> >>>> "indiantreepix" > >> >>>> <[email protected] <javascript:>< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegrou...>>, > > >> >>>> "Pravin Kawale" > >> >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> > >> >>>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 10:49 PM > >> > >> >>>> Dear Neil ji, > >> >>>> I am also having few photographs of the pink flower which u had > >> >>>> photographed. I thought it is Ipomoea triloba? > >> >>>> best wishes > >> >>>> Prashant > >> > >> >>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 10:43 PM, Neil Soares > >> >>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> >>>> > wrote: > >> > >> >>>>> Hi Dinesh, > >> >>>>> Took this photograph last week. Figure this is also Ipomea > >> >>>>> clarkei. > >> >>>>> Regards, > >> >>>>> Neil > >> > >> >>>>> --- On *Sat, 9/26/09, Dinesh Valke > >> >>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> >>>>> >* wrote: > >> > >> >>>>> From: Dinesh Valke > >> >>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> > >> >>>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:19541] Re: Ipomoea clarkei > >> >>>>> To: "Neil Soares" > >> >>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> > >> >>>>> Cc: "indiantreepix" > >> >>>>> <[email protected] <javascript:>< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegrou...>>, > > >> >>>>> "Pravin Kawale" > >> >>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> > >> >>>>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 8:18 PM > >> > >> >>>>> ... Neil ji, can we have more views? > >> >>>>> Regards. > >> > >> >>>>> On Sat, Sep 26, 2009 at 1:22 PM, Neil Soares > >> >>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> >>>>> > wrote: > >> > >> >>>>>> Hi Pravin, > >> >>>>>> Beautiful photographs!!! Presume your identification is based > on > >> >>>>>> Ingalhalikar's Vol. 2. > >> >>>>>> Sending you my photograph identified as Ipomea clarkei by > >> >>>>>> Dr.Almeida > >> >>>>>> at my property at Shahapur. > >> >>>>>> Hopefully someone will be able to throw some light us on this > >> >>>>>> issue. > >> >>>>>> With regards, > >> >>>>>> Neil Soares. > >> > >> >>>>>> --- On *Sat, 9/26/09, Pravin Kawale > >> >>>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> >>>>>> >* wrote: > >> > >> >>>>>> From: Pravin Kawale > >> >>>>>> <[email protected]< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/[email protected]> > >> > >> >>>>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:19526] Ipomoea clarkei > >> >>>>>> To: "indiantreepix" > >> >>>>>> <[email protected] <javascript:>< > http://us.mc339.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=indiantreepix@googlegrou...> > >> > >> >>>>>> Date: Saturday, September 26, 2009, 11:05 AM > >> > >> >>>>>> Hi, > >> >>>>>> Flowers of Ipomoea clarkei > >> >>>>>> Marathi name Sonpungali > >> >>>>>> At Kanakeshwar > >> >>>>>> 26/09/2009 > >> >>>>>> Thanks > >> > >> >>>>>> DSC06613.JPG > >> >>>>>> DSC06611.JPG > >> >>>>>> DSC06618.JPG > >> > >> >>>>>> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. > >> >>>>>> Try it out here:http://picasa.google.com/ > >> > >> -- > >> > >> http:// satishphadke.blogspot.com > > > > > > > > -- > Pravin > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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