Dear gurcharan ji, Now the matter is completely clear for me thank you for helping me and clearing my doubts. Regards tanay On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 11:11 AM, Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>wrote:
> Tanay now you are trying to confuse me. Let me put this way. hookeranum and > hookerianum are orothographic variants, so let us say same, although > hookerianum should be considered as grammatical correct and used preferably. > For a moment forget about these spelling differences. Now please note that > Hypericum leschenaultii Choisy (described in 1824) is an Indonesian species > with which Dyer in FBI (1874) also identified some Indian specimens and he > also provided a new combination H. hookeranum var. leschenaultii (Choisy) > Dyer. As it turns out now Indian specimens are different from Indonesian > plant. For this Indian plant Wall had suggested name H. choisianum which > Robson validated in 1974 in Flora Pakistan (hence Wall. ex Robson). This > also means that H. hookeranum var. leschenaultii sensu Dyer (and not H. > hookerianum (or hookeranum) Wt. & Arnott. (please note that if there are > more than one varieties within this species, then this type hookerianum > would be correctly called H. hookerianum Wt. & Arnott. var. hookerianum > (autonym so no author) , not even H. leschenaultii Choisy) is the synonym of > H. choisianum Wall. ex Robson (or more correctly choisyanum as per Flora > China- as Choisy is correct spelling). > Similarly, please note that H. oblongifolium Choisy is a distinct > species, which Wallich gave identification for some Indian plants now > correctly identified as H. choisianum. So again H. oblongifolium sensu Wall. > and not H. oblongifolium Choisy is synonym of H. choisianum. > Differentiating features of species are given by Robson in > Fl. Pakistan > > I hope I have made things clear. > > > > -- > Dr. Gurcharan Singh > Retired Associate Professor > SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 > Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. > Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 > http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ > > On Sun, Mar 14, 2010 at 12:14 AM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: > >> Dear Gurcharan ji, >> How did you came know that I know the tomato story about the orthographic >> change from *Lycopersicum lycopersicum* (Karsten 1882) to *Lycopersicon >> lycopersicum* (Nicolson 1974). I am amazed by your speculative ideas !! >> If *H hookerianum* and *H hookeranum* are only orthographic error then I >> will like say that in the link you have sent me of eflora of Pakistan it's >> written there *Hypericum hookeranum var. leschenaultii sensu Dyer* and >> *Hypericum >> oblongifolium sensu Wall* are synonyms of *Hypericum choisianum* >> *Wall.*Please see >> from the same link you provided me for handy measures I have added it below. >> How can it be possible Sir the matter is getting hazy for me. Hope you will >> kindly help me and provide me guidabce to understand the matter. >> >> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014200 >> >> >> Regards >> Tanay >> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Gurcharan Singh >> <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> Dear Tanay >>> They are orthographic variants, as are H. choisianum (Fl. Pakistan) and >>> H. choisyanum (Fl. China). I hope you remember nomenclature story of Tomato. >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>> Retired Associate Professor >>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>> >>> >>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 10:02 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Dear Gurcharan Ji, >>>> I understood your explanation . Is H hookerianum and H hookeranum are >>>> different plants or a typing error? >>>> Regards >>>> Tanay >>>> >>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 9:56 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>> >>>>> Dear Tanay >>>>> Hypericum hookerianum wight & Arnott, 1834 can't be synonym of H. >>>>> choisianum, for the simple fact that when Robson validated H. choisianum >>>>> in >>>>> 1973 (Flora Pakistan), he gave differentiating features and latin >>>>> diagnosis >>>>> separating it from H. hookerianum. These two as distinct species are both >>>>> described in Flora of China, authored by Robson himself, H. hookerianum >>>>> occurs in Bangladesh, Bhutan, Nepal, NE India and more importantly South >>>>> India, and H. choisianum occurring in Bengal, Sikkim, Nepal, Myanmar, >>>>> Nepal >>>>> and Pakistan. So on that count also Kodaikanal Plant should be. H. >>>>> hookerianum. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 8:14 PM, tanay bose <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Dear Gurcharan ji, >>>>>> From the eflora of Pakistan it seems that *Hypericum hookeranum *and* >>>>>> Hypericum >>>>>> oblongifolium* is synonym of *Hypericum choisianum.* I hope I am >>>>>> right hence all the name indicate a single plant. It has also written >>>>>> that >>>>>> the older stems are terate and are devoid of 4-lines. I think the photo >>>>>> shows an old stem of the plant because of the leaves size, internode >>>>>> size, >>>>>> nodal size and also because it's bearing flower (reproductive organ). >>>>>> Please >>>>>> confirm about your responses to me kindly. >>>>>> Regards >>>>>> Tanay >>>>>> >>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 6:36 PM, Gurcharan Singh >>>>>> <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Dear Tanay >>>>>>> You seem to have identified the plant. To make it confirmed I request >>>>>>> you to go through the note in eflora of Pakistan: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014200 >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://www.efloras.org/florataxon.aspx?flora_id=5&taxon_id=200014200>and >>>>>>> this photograph on the web >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nmessences.com/sets_images/se_hypericum_choisianum_post_trauma1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nmessences.com/nga/trauma_set.html&usg=__46Ro-j36MuJzwtk1anQPUpXsPdQ=&h=80&w=100&sz=14&hl=en&start=1&sig2=IsybrxQnBfbA6zjGIS5PtA&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=4exBP9dgy6a9FM:&tbnh=66&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHypericum%2Bchoisianum%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=toqbS8LfGYnDrAfOraRH >>>>>>> >>>>>>> <http://images.google.co.in/imgres?imgurl=http://www.nmessences.com/sets_images/se_hypericum_choisianum_post_trauma1.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.nmessences.com/nga/trauma_set.html&usg=__46Ro-j36MuJzwtk1anQPUpXsPdQ=&h=80&w=100&sz=14&hl=en&start=1&sig2=IsybrxQnBfbA6zjGIS5PtA&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=4exBP9dgy6a9FM:&tbnh=66&tbnw=82&prev=/images%3Fq%3DHypericum%2Bchoisianum%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN%26tbs%3Disch:1&ei=toqbS8LfGYnDrAfOraRH>I >>>>>>> feel first the sepals in our plant are rounded at apex and broader, and >>>>>>> stem >>>>>>> seems to be without 4-lines. Could it be H. hookerianum?. I think it is >>>>>>> worth researching. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh >>>>>>> Retired Associate Professor >>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007 >>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018. >>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297 Mob: 9810359089 >>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 4:24 PM, tanay bose <[email protected] >>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear all, >>>>>>>> I hope the plant in the attached photo is *Hypericum choisianum*. >>>>>>>> Regards >>>>>>>> Tanay >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, Mar 13, 2010 at 1:55 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]>wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Earlier relevant feedback: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> “*A chance for Hypericum...?”* from Parjanya ji. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>>>>>>> From: Aarti S. Khale <[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> Date: 9 January 2010 17:29 >>>>>>>>> Subject: [indiantreepix:26159] For ID:090110AK1 >>>>>>>>> To: [email protected] >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This picture was taken at Bryant's Park, Kodaokanal on the 24th >>>>>>>>> of October,08. >>>>>>>>> Is it Golden St John's Wort? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If you could kindly confirm identification. >>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>> Aarti Khale >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You have been sent 1 picture. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> At Bryant's Park,Kodai-DSCN6809 24-Oct-08 1-02-44 PM.JPG >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> These pictures were sent with Picasa, from Google. >>>>>>>>> Try it out here: http://picasa.google.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> With regards, >>>>>>>>> J.M.Garg ([email protected]) >>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1 >>>>>>>>> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >>>>>>>>> Image Resource of more than a thousand species of Birds, >>>>>>>>> Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise): >>>>>>>>> http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg >>>>>>>>> For learning about Indian Flora, visit/ join Google e-group- >>>>>>>>> Efloraofindia:http://groups.google.co.in/group/indiantreepix >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]. >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> Tanay Bose >>>>>>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>>>>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>>>>>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>>>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. >>>>>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>>>>> [email protected]<indiantreepix%[email protected]> >>>>>>>> . >>>>>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix?hl=en. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Tanay Bose >>>>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>>>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Tanay Bose >>>> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >>>> 9830439691(Mobile) >>>> 9674221362 (Mobile) >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Tanay Bose >> +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) >> 9830439691(Mobile) >> 9674221362 (Mobile) >> >> > > > -- Tanay Bose +91(033) 25550676 (Resi) 9830439691(Mobile) 9674221362 (Mobile) -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. 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