Thanks, Chadwell ji, for in depth views.

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From: C CHADWELL
Date: 24 September 2016 at 11:24
Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:251806] SK110SEP21-2016:ID
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>


Forgot to mention that just to complicate things further, the genus
*Richteria* is
also applied to these plants.

Yoshioka in 'Himalayan Plants Illustrated' uses *Richteria pyrethroides*
(syn.
*Chrysanthemum pyrethroides*).

What a game!  And so muddling for many.....


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


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UK

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Thanks, Chadwell ji.

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From: *C CHADWELL*
Date: 24 September 2016 at 00:43
Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:251806] SK110SEP21-2016:ID
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>


A number of nomenclatural and taxonomic changes have taken place with
this plant.

There are two species to consider, although 'Flowers of the Himalaya'
incorrectly
say only 1 (they used the genus *Chrysanthemum)*.

Stewart lists *Chrysanthemum pyrethroides* as very common in the dry inner
mountains.
He also listed *C.griffithii*.

At one point these species were included within the genus *Pyrethrum*
(Stewart lists these
names as synonyms).

He observes about *Chrysanthemum*  and *Tanacetum*, "The specialists differ
so much in their
treatment of this assemblage of plants that in making a check-list it is
difficult to know who to follow.
Rechinger places Pyrethrum and Tanacetum under Chrysanthemum. Kitamura does
the same.
Hooker placed the pretty rayed types in *Chrysanthemum* and the disciform
headed plants with small
flowers., usually corymbose, he placed in Tanacetum.  Clapham says that
Tanacetum differs in the
apparent absence of ray florets, the marginal female florets having ligules
so short they appear +/- tubular
like hermaphrodite central florets"......

I am no specialist not taxonomist!  I really how troublesome and confusing
all these changes are for most people.

*Anyhow, Dickore & Klimes, included these species under Tanacetum - they
have 7 other species, which look*
*very different to these!*

*So can we readily tell these two species apart?  * It is complicated by,
as Stewart says, there is a great
difference in the amount of pubescence in  *Tanacetum pyrethroides* (which
he knew as *C.pyrethroides*) -
some being sub-glabrous, others white hoary.


*For the present, I am uncertain how to distinguish between T.pyrethroides
and T.griffithii but think your plant*
*must surely be one of these.*



Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

http://www.shpa.org.uk/






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*Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
*Sent:* Friday, 23 September 2016, 9:11
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Forwarding again for Id assistance please.

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From: *Saroj Kasaju* <[email protected]>
Date: 21 September 2016 at 18:09
Subject: [efloraofindia:251806] SK110SEP21-2016:ID
To: efloraofindia <mailto:[email protected]
<[email protected]>>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>


Dear Members ,

Sharing some pictures for ID shot on the way to Khardung La on 21 August
2014 at 12000 ft.

Thank you.

Saroj Kasaju
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