Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji, for your efforts. I think you are right. Pl. see images at http://www.plantarium.ru/page/view/item/48074.html http://www.holubec.wbs.cz/10-2013-Kazakhstan-Kyrgyzstan.html http://www.mobot.org/mobot/PakistanImages/174-Caprifoliaceae/Lonicera_semenovii.jpg
On 25 September 2016 at 10:23, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Chadwell ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: C CHADWELL > Date: 25 September 2016 at 00:51 > Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:250356] Ladakh flora 5. UP > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > > Have taken a quick look at the Kew herbarium site. There are no specimens > to view of two of the Lonicera species recorded from Ladakh. Of the > others, 4 > do not come close to the images taken by ushaprabha. > > However, *Lonicera semenovii* looks a possibility. Unfortunately, the > images are not at > a resolution that permits close inspection of the foliage, so cannot be > more than speculative. > > Whilst digitised images of herbarium specimens are useful, they have their > limitations, in the typical > way they are done. One can learn much more from close inspection in > person of *quality* herbarium > sheets, whose identification can be relied upon. Some of the digitised > images available on the Kew > Herbarium site are of 19th Century collections - which vary in quality and > sometimes their age means > features have deteriorated somewhat. > > Another thing to bear in mind is that when searching for a particular > species, the original names on the pressed specimens are > used - which may be out-of-date, so unless you know the older synonyms, > you may struggle to find the > images you are after. Or it may be that specimens of the species you are > looking for have not been digitised yet. > Whilst Kew has millions of specimens, it does not examples of every > species from India - nor have they all been digitised. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > http://www.shpa.org.uk/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Cc:* ushaprabha page <[email protected]>; gurinder < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Saturday, 24 September 2016, 4:32 > *Subject:* Fwd: Fwd: [efloraofindia:250356] Ladakh flora 5. UP > > Thanks, Chadwell ji. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *C CHADWELL* > Date: 24 September 2016 at 04:24 > Subject: Re: Fwd: [efloraofindia:250356] Ladakh flora 5. UP > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > > I agree that the images are of a Lonicera in fruit - though the final photo > does not fully match the first two. > > Have always found Lonicera a difficult genus identification-wise. > > Dickore & Klimes list 7 Lonicera species in Ladakh: > > *L.asperifolia*, L.caerulea, L.heterophylla, L.microphylla, L.obovata > L.semenovii and > *L.spinosa*. > > Cannot match the images with what information I have on these species at > this stage. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > http://www.shpa.org.uk/ > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *To:* efloraofindia <mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>> > *Cc:* ushaprabha page <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Friday, 23 September 2016, 8:54 > *Subject:* Fwd: [efloraofindia:250356] Ladakh flora 5. UP > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *J.M. Garg* <[email protected]> > Date: 3 September 2016 at 09:03 > Subject: Fwd: [efloraofindia:250356] Ladakh flora 5. UP > To: efloraofindia <mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>> > Cc: ushaprabha page <[email protected]>, gurinder < > [email protected]> > > > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > Some earlier relevant feedback: > It seems to be some species of Lonicera.... > Regards, > Dr. G S Goraya > > Pl. check with comparative images of Lonicera > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/caprifoliaceae/lonicera> > > In particular, *Lonicera webbiana* Wall. ex DC. > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/caprifoliaceae/lonicera/lonicera-webbiana> > (Images > by Anzar A. Khuroo > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/VZCOxUbbx_8> > ) & *Lonicera obovata* Royle ex Hook. f. & Thomson > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/c/caprifoliaceae/lonicera/lonicera-obovata> > (Images by Dinesh Valke > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/RtJSjMyDPS8> > (1,2), Gurcharan Singh > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/n_7YACwkL3Y> > (3) and Suresh Rana > <https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!topic/indiantreepix/n_7YACwkL3Y> > (4)) > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *ushaprabha page* <[email protected]> > Date: 29 August 2016 at 09:03 > Subject: [efloraofindia:250356] Ladakh flora 5. UP > To: indiantreepix <mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>> > > > id pl, of the shrub with fruits. > can it be Daphne retusa ? > > ushaprabha. > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to mailto:[email protected] > <[email protected]>. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] . > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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