Thanks, Chadwell ji. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: C CHADWELL Date: 28 September 2016 at 14:48 Subject: Re: Fwd: Fwd: SK22JUN29-2016:ID To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
Neglected to observe that my understanding is that *D.cashmerianum* flowers are more open, foliage much more dissected with more rounded lobes. 'Flowers of the Himalaya' describes *D.brunonianum* flowers as "inflated", its leaf lobes toothed. Best Wishes, Chris Chadwell 81 Parlaunt Road SLOUGH SL3 8BE UK http://www.shpa.org.uk/ ------------------------------ *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> *Sent:* Wednesday, 28 September 2016, 5:53 *Subject:* Fwd: Fwd: SK22JUN29-2016:ID Thanks, Chadwell ji. ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *C CHADWELL* Date: 28 September 2016 at 05:55 Subject: Re: Fwd: SK22JUN29-2016:ID To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> I* currently consider all Delphiniums from the high passes in Ladakh to be within * *Delphinium brunonianum - though they except considerable variation! So your images come within this.* I consider the image labelled as *D.cashmerianum* in 'Flowers of the Himalaya' photographed on Baralacha La comes within *D.brunonianum*. This book is of a high standard but inevitably a few mistakes crept in (which I shall share at a later stage). As for the image in that book labelled as *D.brunonianum* photographed in Dolpo, Nepal not only bears no resemblance to forms of what I understand to be *D.brunonianum* in Ladakh, but may be a different species or variant at least. Always wondering about species of any genus found the whole length of the Himalaya, whether, when studied further do not turn out to vary at variety, subspecies or even species level. Stewart commented within "An Annotated Catalogue of the Vascular Plants of Pakistan & Kashmir" about *D.brunonianum*: "very common and very variable in the morainal zone @ 3300-4800m. about *D.cashmerianum*: "common and variable at high levels. Sometimes approaches *D.brunonianum*, possibly because of hybridisation. 2700-4800m I have an understanding of definite *D.cashmerianum* close to villages (irrigated areas) at lower levels in Ladakh. I do not consider I have seen it on the high passes but what about in between? Similarly, I have not seen what I understand to be *D.brunonianum* at lower levels. I consider this needs further investigation. Best Wishes, Chris Chadwell 81 Parlaunt Road SLOUGH SL3 8BE UK http://www.shpa.org.uk/ ------------------------------ *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> *To:* efloraofindia <mailto:[email protected] <[email protected]>> *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> *Sent:* Tuesday, 27 September 2016, 11:27 *Subject:* Fwd: SK22JUN29-2016:ID Forwarding again for Id assistance please. Some earlier relevant feedback: or D. brunonianum ?? - from Saroj ji It does not match with images at Delphinium cashmerianum <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/ranunculaceae/delphinium/delphinium-cashmerianum-1> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: *Saroj Kasaju* <[email protected]> Date: 30 June 2016 at 15:54 Subject: SK22JUN29-2016:ID To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>, efloraofindia <mailto:indiantreepix@ googlegroups.com <[email protected]>> Dear Mr. Garg, Enclosing some pictures for identification/verification. Is it Delphinium cashmerianum ?? Location : Khardung La Altitude : 5000 m Date: 24 August 2014 Thank you. Saroj Kasaju -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
