Is the plant given in http://www.eflorakkl.in/Details.php?id=53 is incorrect, where the inflorescence given is totally different ?
On 16 October 2016 at 12:38, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Shrikant ji. > May I request you to pl. post complete plant also of Dopatrium > lobelioides. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: Shrikant Ingalhalikar <[email protected]> > Date: 16 October 2016 at 11:26 > Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:252731] 108-TSP-ID-02OCT2016-3: Herb @ Hethoor > for ID > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > > Left to be attached > > On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 11:25 AM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < > [email protected]> wrote: > >> My picture of Dopatrium lobelioides flowers. >> To be very sure one must see dissected flowers of both species for place >> of insertion of stamens A. in corolla tube for Dopatrium B. in corolla >> throat for Lindernia >> >> On Sun, Oct 16, 2016 at 10:41 AM, Shrikant Ingalhalikar < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Yes, there is a lot of similarity in 2 plants. Looking at your plant >>> carefully it is L. hyssopioides. Reflexed pedicels in fruit is >>> characteristic to this sp. In flowers, the upper lip is notched and lobes >>> of lower lip are deeply cut and dentate on margins. >>> In D lobelioides flowers, upper lip is entire and lower lip is shallowly >>> cut and is entire on margins of lobes. >>> Even the IISC site seems to show pics of L hyssopioides against both. >>> This does happen while identifying plants by mere foto tallying. >>> Regards >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2016 at 10:42 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>>> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please. >>>> >>>> Some earlier relevant feedback: >>>> *Lindernia* *hyssopoides* (L.) Haines >>>> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theplantlist.org%2Ftpl1.1%2Frecord%2Ftro-29200340&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFQjCNH5mgINbypYiRlOvTMq8IyX8StmFg> >>>> - >>>> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en#!topic/indiantreepix/K19PuNKreBg- >>>> from Santhan ji. >>>> >>>> >>>> Thanks Ponnutheerthagiri Santhan ji.......it matches >>>> Ref:http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet. >>>> php?id=4041&cat=1 >>>> regards >>>> >>>> Dopatrium lobelioides. Regards >>>> Shrikant Ingalhalikar >>>> >>>> A slight confusion because of the superficial similarity between >>>> Lindernia hyssopoides and Dopatria lobeliodes.....!? and I am unable to >>>> differentiate...! >>>> *Lindernia hyssopoides-* Leaves linear,lanceolate,narrowed to >>>> base,palmately nerved,Corolla white-pink,stamens 4,anterior filaments >>>> appendiculate,capsule, >>>> elongated and deflexed. >>>> Ref:http:http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbs >>>> heet.php?id=4041&cat=1 >>>> *Dopatrium lobeliodes- *Leaves radical,mostly crowded at the base of >>>> the stem,upper opposite,pedicellate,elliptic,oblong,margin entire,apex >>>> acute,glabrous.Flowers in decussate pairs,calyx lobes obtus,corolla violet >>>> to deep blue,capsule globose. Flowering Dec-Mar >>>> Ref:http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc.ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet. >>>> php?id=4080&cat=1 >>>> regards >>>> Tspkumar >>>> >>>> If we go by the following, posted plant should be Lindernia hyssopoides >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/lindernia/lindernia-hyssopoides> >>>> http://www.eflorakkl.in/Details.php?id=53 >>>> http://plantillustrations.org/illustration.php?id_illustrati >>>> on=61339&SID=0&mobile=0&code_category_taxon= >>>> Herbarium specimen at http://florakarnataka.ces.iisc >>>> .ernet.in/hjcb2/herbsheet.php?id=4041&cat=1 >>>> >>>> Images in efi at/ of Dopatrium lobelioides >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/p/plantaginaceae/dopatrium/dopatrium-lobelioides> >>>> (also >>>> in FOI) may also be of Lindernia hyssopoides >>>> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/l/linderniaceae/lindernia/lindernia-hyssopoides> >>>> >>>> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >>>> From: tsp kumar <[email protected]> >>>> Date: 2 October 2016 at 22:34 >>>> Subject: [efloraofindia:252731] 108-TSP-ID-02OCT2016-3: Herb @ Hethoor >>>> for ID >>>> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * Dear friends, Kindly examine and identify this herb. Habit:Herb >>>> Habitat:Wild,by the side of Paddy fields Sighting: Hethoor,near >>>> Sakaleshpur,Karnataka,about 1000 msl Date:18-09-2016 Thanks and regards >>>> tspkumar Deputy Conservator of Forests Working Plan Chikmagalur >>>> Ph:9880571585 “We have not inherited this planet from our >>>> forefathers, we have borrowed it from our children”-An American proverb* >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> * -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>> Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop >>>> receiving emails from it, send an email to >>>> [email protected] >>>> <[email protected]>. To post to this group, send >>>> email to [email protected] <[email protected]>. >>>> Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix >>>> <https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix>. 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INDIA > Tel. +9120 2435 0765 > www.flowersofsahyadri.com > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
