thanks a lot sir. On 20 October 2016 at 10:45, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Thanks, Chadwell ji, for your efforts. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: 19 October 2016 at 19:52 > Subject: [efloraofindia:254195] Re: Ladakh flora 15, up. id pl > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> > > > I think this *Saussurea glanduligera* - the location and altitude fit. > > Stewart records it from Leh-Lamayuru, Taklung La, Tsakzhun Tso, below Gya, > Lahul and Tibet @ 3900-5700m > > Dickore & Klimes list this species from Ladakh. > > 'Flora of Lahaul-Spiti' have it as rare but that is probably not the case; > don't expect the authors spent too much time at the > highest elevations in the region. > > *I repeat that Saussurea is not any easy genus with much confusion between > certain species incl. S.gossypiphora. The* > *authors of the above work claim, falsely, that S.gossypiphora grows on > Rohtang Pass (which is not part of Lahoul, at least* > *not the south-facing/wetter parts) whereas I have seen S.simpsoniana > there; they do not mention this species.* > > *May I draw the attention of those interested in this genus to 'Taxonomic > studies on Saussurea de Candolle... in the Hengduan Mountains, * > *China. I An annotated list of recently collected specimens' by Fujikawa, > Boufford, Ohba, Sun &n Wu published in the 'Newsletter of Himalayan Botany' > No. 39 ( Feb 2007) - by The Society of Himalayan Botany, Tokyo. * > > *The authors state that this is another highly diversified genus with more > than 100 (of a total of c. 300) species occurring within the Hengduan > region! Please note I do not consider the mountains of SW China to be part > of the Himalaya proper. So we must be grateful that a mere 19 have been > recorded from Ladakh to-date..... (though I am uncertain about the correct > identification of 2 or 3 of them).* > > *Studies culminated in Lipschitz's monograph on the genus in 1979. > Several Chinese botanists have also studied the genus. Despite this > history of study, the species of Saussurea are still, because of the > paucity of specimens from throughout the entire range of distribution, > unsatisfactorily known in many respects, especially in their ecology and > morphology. There have been few detailed comparative taxonomic studies and > relatively little field work in the regions where the genus reaches its > greatest diversity and complexity. The same applies to Saussurea in the > Western Himalaya.* > > *During field expeditions from 1996-2005, many new herbarium specimens and > considerable material in silica gel for molecular studies were gathered. > Ecological observations were carefully recorded and detailed notes made of > each location. This information will be particularly valuable for further > systematic analysis and for floristic studies for a part of the world that > has until now been so poorly explored and remains so poorly known.* > > *Future proper botanical exploration of Ladakh and all of NW Himalaya > should aspire to and match such quality - only then can its flora begin to > be known to International standards. The late Leos Klimes and colleagues > have been undertaking ecological studies to a high standard in Ladakh in > recent times - their excellent efforts should be acknowledged, at times > reaching the very highest limits of flowering plant growth (undertaking > in-depth studies at 5000m+ even to 5850m) and not with the benefit of a > vehicle which allows others to reach Khardung La and similar high passes > thanks to 'road' construction by the Indian Army). Few botanists have ever > ventured up to such places (including myself). Operating methodically at > such altitudes is demanding, to say the least. I know one European > ecologist who surveyed at 6000m or so coping with being literally being > sick every morning when at such heights. We all should admire such > dedication!* > > *The article covers several Saussurea species recorded in Ladakh - there > are B&W photos of herbarium sheets.* > > > > > > On Tuesday, October 18, 2016 at 11:33:52 AM UTC+1, Ushaprabha wrote: > >> Location -on the way getting down from Kongmarula to Shang-sumdo >> at the height of appro 4700 mtr. on 7th August 16. >> id of the plant pl. >> >> ushaprabha. >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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