A reply: "With due respect to you and all eFI team, I cannot challenge the hard work of our team and astonishing work by Botanical Survey of India. What I follow is the key, and morphological characters without the limitations of floral distribution. Identifications are made simply and completely on shared photographs while studying their morphological characters.
e.g. *Crateva* *nurvala* Buch.-Ham. (http://tropicos.org/Name/50154777) is a legitimate species and found in India (also in botanical parks like ICAR Gujarat campus, AJC Bose Indian Botanical Garden), and a distribution of *Crateva adansonii *subsp.* trifoliata *(Roxb.) Jacobs in India but not mentioned in Flora of India, that does not mean it is not present because not mentioned in Flora of India Vol 2, Published in 1993 almost 23 years back. Whenever we see such distribution limitations we fail to recognize or represent a new species for a new region. There might be chances of finding new species and further steps for field survey, plant collection and studying should be undertaken. Restricted to available floral data specifically distribution restricts new identifications. Many of the species have traveled with plant collectors, floral enthusiasts and naturally with birds. Many of plant species have crossed their distribution now, and we have so many examples. Taking in account of non Indian species we identify without challenge though not mentioned in Flora of India. Many of species have escaped to wild from plantations, botanical gardens and even unscientific plant disposal by local nurseries. *There might be mistakes while identifying attached images and there should be a correction mechanism but without any restrictions of distribution and limiting to one thing of that species.* For further global studies: *The Genus Crateva (Capparaceae) by M. Jacobs; Rijksherbarium, Leyden. History and Typification. Blumea VOL. XII, No. 2, 1964.* I beg for forgiveness if any of my words have hurt anyone. Kind regards, Varun" Thanks, Varun ji. On 21 October 2016 at 12:15, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, Varun ji, > But As per BSI Flora of India link *Crateva unilocularis* > <http://efloraindia.nic.in/efloraindia/taxonList.action?id=3394&type=4> > Buch.-Ham., > it is found in India: Along streams in mixed dry forests, up to 1500 m. > West Bengal, Sikkim, Assam, Meghalaya and Andaman & Nicobar Islands; Nepal, > Bhutan, Bangladesh, Myanmar, extending to China and Vietnam. > > It is not found in Maharastra as per the above link. In view, to me it > looks like C. adansonii subsp. odora only. > > Pl. see recent post of Saroj ji for Crateva unilocularis Buch.-Ham. > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/4_e9ObeYoMc> > > On 24 August 2015 at 15:48, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > >> A reply: >> "Please find the plant ID for link below: >> https://groups.google.com/forum/?hl=en&fromgroups#!searchin/ >> indiantreepix/Crateva$20species/indiantreepix/WjmCJ53u4EY/-QzQJ11r3bkJ >> Most probably: >> *Crateva* *unilocularis* Buch.-Ham. >> Leaves subcoriaceous like C. adansonii subsp. odora and C. magna >> (membranous in C. religiosa), >> Lateral leaflets slightly asymmetric, >> Lateral nerves 5-8 pairs (more than 11 in C. magna and 4-6 pairs in C. >> adansonii subsp. odora), >> Kind regards, >> Varun" >> >> Thanks, Varun ji. >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> From: prasanna gogate <[email protected]> >> Date: 25 May 2011 at 19:42 >> Subject: [efloraofindia:70282] please id the tree >> To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> >> >> >> dear all >> >> it is medium sized tree with trifolite leaves. picture of fruits are >> attached. tree is near to sea on paddy field. >> location is Alibag/raigad/maharashtra. please help to id >> >> prasanna gogate >> >> >> >> >> -- >> With regards, >> J.M.Garg >> >> 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' >> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> >> The whole world uses my Image Resource >> <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a >> thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. >> (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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Winner of >> Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia >> <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. >> >> Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of >> India'. >> > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). 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