Thanks, Chadwell ji

On 6 Nov 2016 9:48 pm, "[email protected]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, this is Saxifraga jacquemontiana.  I have here in connection with a
> mistaken suggestion that an image of Sedum oreades was this species.
>
> *I fully endorse Dr Rawat's  FIELD EXPERIENCE of S.jacquemontiana, in his
> case  in Uttarakhand.  It is absolute nonsense to suggest this is an
> 'Endangered' species in the Himalaya. **I fail to see how the 'Red List
> of Threatened Plants of India' was arrived at.   It is only possible to
> ascertain which species are GENUINELY rare, let alone 'Endangered' unless
> there have been extensive surveys across India by large numbers of field
> botanists who can reliably recognise species "in the field".  Few such
> botanists exist and for areas as vast as the Himalaya, the flora remains
> poorly known.  This has led to numerous common, even abundant species being
> claimed to be 'Rare & Endangered'.*
>
>
> *This is a seriously wrong situation which needs to be addressed at the
> highest levels....   It has led to submissions to and accepted by CITES of
> Himalayan species which are NOT 'Threatened'....   I keep saying, what
> about the species which are rare and endangered?  Nobody actually knows...*
>
> *As for Jacquemont's Saxifrage, this is common in suitable habitat.
> Stewart found it to be common on high passes in Kashmir @ 3600-4800m.  It
> is recorded above 5000m in other places.  I have seen it numerous times in
> the NW Himalaya.  Don't expect those submitting evidence to 'Red List of
> Threatened Plants of India' spent too much time amongst boulders on high
> passes to check its supposed rarity...*
>
>
> On Thursday, August 6, 2015 at 8:09:41 AM UTC+1, D.S Rawat wrote:
>
>> *Saxifraga jacquemontiana* Decne (Saxifragaceae) is a mat forming plant
>> in alpine meadows of Uttarakhand above 4000m elevation.
>>
>> This species is mentioned as ‘*Endangered*’ in *Red List of Threatened
>> Vascular Plants of India* (Rao et al. 2003, pp.86-87) though to me it is
>> not a threatened taxon as I have seen it in many areas of Uttarakhand and
>> there is no apparent threat to it.
>>
>> Here photographed on way to Shila Samudra glacier (4700m) in Chamoli
>> district of Uttarakhand in September 2014.
>>
>> An another upload in eFI (https://groups.google.com/for
>> um/#!topic/indiantreepix/aHCsmahGZJg) is probably not *S.jacquemontiana*.
>>
>>
>>
>> DSRawat Pantnagar
>> Dr D.S.Rawat
>> Department of Biological Sciences, G.B. Pant University of Agriculture &
>> Technology Pantnagar-263 145 Uttarakhand, INDIA
>>
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