Dear Dinesh
The narrow foliage of the plant you photographed does not match the more
typical leaves of Primula macrophylla (as I am calling it) [Primula macrophylla
var. macrophylla] but I have observed similar on specimens found at some 3000m
on the Rohtang Passin HP.
Clearly, all taxa within the PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA COMPLEX vary a good deal and
in time may be subdivided/separated further.
At times one just has to say, "that is the best/most I can say at present".
The more close-ups we get of these Primulas the better we can understand them.
Please be sure to take close-ups of the leaves next time including undersides.
This would help.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
From: Dinesh Valke <[email protected]>
To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Cc: C CHADWELL <[email protected]>; efloraofindia
<[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 10 November 2016, 6:43
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:256298] Re: VoF Week :: DV :: 03 AUG 12 - 1231 ::
faded blue flowered herb along Hemakund - Ghangaria trail
Thank you very much Chadwell ji for validating the ID, and for related
information.Regards.Dinesh
On Thu, Nov 10, 2016 at 10:22 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks, Chadwell ji
On 10 Nov 2016 6:04 am, "chrischadwell261@btinternet. com"
<chrischadwell261@btinternet. com> wrote:
I consider this has been correctlyidentified but apply a slightly different
name drawing attention to theunpublished research of Professor Arve Elvebakk,
University of Tromso, Norway(Curator of Tromso Arctic-Alpine Botanic Garden).
The PRIMULA MACROPHYLLA(sensu lato - meaning in the broad sense) COMPLEX has
troubled botanists andspecialist growers for more than a century. Elvebakk has
recognised a separatetaxon/species Primula meeboldii (honouring the German
botanist who firstcollected pressed specimens of this on high passes in Ladakh
in the 19thCentury). It has pinkish flowers and occurs in Ladakh and some
otherregions. Hopefully the full details will be published in
thenot-too-distant future. Anyhow, I am in support of theseparation of
P.meeboldii at species level, along with P.macrophylla sensustricto (in the
strict sense) and Primula moorcroftiana as separate species. The image taken
probably fits with what I currently consider to be Primulamacrophylla* (syn.
Primula macrophylla var. macrophylla). I have observed bothP.macrophylla and
P.moorcroftiana on the Rohtang. P.moorcrotiana ismostly found from 4000-4500m
(I have not been higher but it may well grow athigher altitudes) whereas
P.macrophylla is mostly found between 3000-3600m. I have found Primula
macrophylla sensu stricto to vary a lot - so maywell be subdivided at some
point but the plant photographed in the VOF is notPrimula moorcroftiana nor
P.meeboldii nor matches the unknown(s) in Kashmir.
On Friday, August 31, 2012 at 8:25:01 PM UTC+1, Dinesh Valke wrote:
| |
| 3 AUG 12
Hemakund - Ghangaria trail ... about 13500 ft |
| Dear friends, ID please.Habitat: mountain slope
Habit: small herb, about 50 - 60 cm high; flower about 8 - 10 mm across (not
sure)
|
| Regards.
Dinesh |
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