Thanks, Chadwell ji and Saroj ji

On 15 Nov 2016 9:27 am, "[email protected]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Yes, I think this must be Girardinia diversifollia, the 'Giant Himalayan
> Stinging Nettle' but your selection of just close-ups (with the last image
> of foliage out-of-focus) do not match well what I am familiar of this
> species including my own photos and experience up-close.  Please take
> and include in your posts shots of habitat and habit of plants as well as
> close-ups as it can be hard to gain an overall impression of what one is
> looking at.
>
> I first came across this plant in Nepal but it is also widespread in the
> Kulu Valley, H.P.  I do not recollect ever coming across it in Kashmir
> though as I have commented in other posts, have not spent much time at the
> elevations where this is found in N.Pakistan & Kashmir  i.e. 1500-2400m.
> Stewart does not record it from the main Kashmir Valley.
>
> There is a line drawing of the plant in 'Flora Simlensis'. Collet found it
> to be common in forest at Simla remarking that Roxburgh called it a most
> ferocious-looking plant with the stings producing acute pain but it is of
> short duration.  He said the stems furnish a fine silky fibre, used in
> Sikkim (little was known of Nepal at the time) for ropes, twine and coarse
> cloth.
>
> A Britisher who was a volunteer TB-vaccinator for The Britain-Nepal
> Medical Trust (his father was a doctor who helped in the early years of
> this NGO charity) never forgot the first time he was 'stung' by it -
> getting through his jeans like a "hot knife through butter".  He was wary
> afterwards.  *One of the risks of plunging too readily into vegetation at
> certain elevations in Nepal is this plant.  It was a 'rude' awakening for
> me during my first visit to Nepal back in 1990 to encounter this and
> leeches - which I had not come across in Kashmir or the Indian
> TransHimalaya...*
>
> Flowers of Himalaya say it is found from Pakistan to Bhutan, India,
> Myanamar & China @ 1200-3000m on wasteland, shrubberies & edges of
> cultivation.
>
> Flora of Bhutan describes its habitat as subtropical and warm broad-leaved
> forest more rarely cool broad-leaves forest @ 850-2750m.  Fibres (which are
> one of the longest in the plant kingdom) much used to make ropes,
> bow-strings and coarse cloth.
>
> Roy Lancaster, a British Plantsman within his two books on Nepal recounted
> an occasion when a porter claimed to have been bitten by a demon when it
> was still dark early one morning.  The 'demons' because there were lots of
> them turned out to be this Giant Himalayan Stinging nettle!
>
> *But this is SUCH an important plant which has enormous additional
> potential for Nepal to help against soil-erosion and protection against
> landslides & damage from earthquakes in villages at elevations where its
> growth can be encouraged.  I am not suggesting it can 'stop' a major
> earthquake or major landslide but on a smaller scale it could make a real
> difference, reducing damage and even saving lives.   I have been drawing
> attention to this (there are already many NGOs and Womens' Groups in
> Nepal encouraging the use of fibre from this plant) for a couple of years
> now but not one person has commented let alone any response from those who
> need to act to "make things happen" in Nepal.  Perhaps someone reading
> these comments will contact me and take up the cause:*
>
>
> *This remarkable plant warrants greater efforts to encourage planting on a
> LARGE SCALE in and around villages in Nepal.  And following the recent
> earthquakes and awareness that the country is prone to earthquakes,
> measures that can be taken to reduce the impact of landslides are of major
> importance.  They should, as a PRIORITY, include propagating this valuable
> plant and planting in suitable locations. It is something which local
> villages can be involved with themselves, having the not inconsiderable
> advantage of incurring little or no cost and there being the bonus of
> products to be made by weaving its fibres and income to be generated for
> WOMEN in the villages.  The villagers would be doing something positive.
> Many villagers are already familiar with the plant, which occurs
> naturally, so it is not a matter of introducing a strange, alien species,
> which may end up doing more harm than good.*
>
> *It has been recognised for some time that the 'Giant Himalayan Stinging
> Nettle' (GIRARDINIA  DIVERSIFOLIA) has a tough root system which helps bind
> soil and prevent soil erosion - which has long been a serious problem in
> many Nepali Villages.  It can grow on slopes and poor soils not suitable
> for cultivation of crops, indeed appears by itself around some abandoned
> yak herders huts. *
>
> *It should be viewed as a valuable crop as the fibres within it (which I
> understand to be the longest in the plant kingdom) can be woven into many
> products, which can be sold (even the head-bands for the bamboo baskets
> worn on backs, which for centuries have been the main means of transport of
> goods in Nepal (pack animals are not generally used in the way they are in
> the Western Himalaya).  As it is the women who do the weaving, any sales go
> into their pockets.  The world over, money which is controlled by women
> tends to be MUCH BETTER SPENT - not least in the poorest communities.
> There is even the bonus that the plant is utilised in religious ceremonies
> and its weaving maintains traditional skills and traditional way-of-life -
>  so it really is a WIN, WIN situation.*
>
> *For further information see:
> https://sites.google.com/a/shpa.org.uk/main/giant-himalayan-stinging-nettles---saviours-of-landslip-prone-nepalese-villages
> <https://sites.google.com/a/shpa.org.uk/main/giant-himalayan-stinging-nettles---saviours-of-landslip-prone-nepalese-villages>
>  or
> contact me directly.*
>
> *There are lots of ways efloraofIndia can be of use let us hope helping to
> reach influential people is one of them.....*
>
>
>
> On Monday, November 14, 2016 at 4:35:48 PM UTC, Saroj Kumar Kasaju wrote:
>
>> Dear Members,
>>
>> Location: Champadevi , Nepal
>> Altitude:  5000 ft.
>> Date: 12 November 2016
>>
>> Nepali Names:
>>
>> अल्लो Allo  / अल्लो सिस्नु  Allo Sisnu / भ्यान्ग्रे सिस्नु Bhyaangre
>> Sisnu / चाल्ने सिस्नु Chaalne Sisnu / काली सिस्नु Kaali Sisnu / लेख सिस्नु
>> Lekh Sisnu / ठुलो सिस्नु Thulo Sisnu
>>
>>
>> Thank you.
>> Saroj Kasaju
>>
>>

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