Dear Chris
Many thanks for this 
If i am back in that area 
I shall try and gather more information
Regards
Mohina

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> On 19-Nov-2016, at 21:58, "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" 
> <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> There seems to be different interpretations of Geranium mascatense and 
> G.ocellatum.
> 
> 'The Plant List' gives G.ocellatum as a synonym of the former.  Whereas Nasir 
> in 'Flora of Pakistan' separates the two.  Stewart does not list G,mascatense
> at all but has G.ocellatum var. himalaicum as common from 300-1800m.  Nasir, 
> on the other hand, says that G.mascatense is only sparingly recorded from 
> Pakistan and then only in Baluchistan.
> 
> G.mascatense is recorded from Africa and the Gulf - so Baluchistan fits OK 
> with this.   Collet had G.ocellatum in hill districts of N.India from same 
> altitudes as Stewart.  IF they constitute separate species, I find it 
> somewhat surprising to have G.mascatense in the Himalayan foothills.
> 
> I do not know on whose authority G.ocellatum has been sunk into G.mascatense. 
>  According to Nasir the species are very close but G.mascatense has 
> puberulous mericarps - translating that into English:  in Geranium the dry 
> fruits consists of 5 'mericarps' each with a seed, which may be explosively 
> dispersed though sometimes remains inside) the 'puberulous' part means downy 
> with very short soft hairs.  So clearly, unless one can observe the fruits of 
> a geranium this characteristic cannot be ascertained.  No doubt Nasir knew of 
> other differences.
> 
> 
> Taking a quick look at the images for G.mascastense available on the 
> internet, most show marked gaps between the petals (as do the images taken in 
> Muscat in the posting above this) compared with images of specimens from the 
> foothills of the NW Himalaya (incl. the one near Chakki) which may constitute 
> sufficient to justify them as separate taxa but without careful study of the 
> whole plants cannot speculate if that is sufficient (or a consistent 
> difference) to justify separation as varieties, subspecies or at the species 
> level but the geographic/altitudinal/climatic differences may be of 
> significance.
> 
> Cannot comment further at this stage.
> 
> 
>> On Sunday, June 17, 2012 at 2:00:54 PM UTC+1, mohina macker wrote:
>> geranium mascatense
>> near chakki mor, himachal pradesh
>> second week of march
>> regards
>> mohina macker
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