Thanks, Chadwell ji

On 20 Nov 2016 10:42 pm, "[email protected]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> This looks correct.  I have seen it on Rohtang and another pass in Kulu
> Valley.
>
> Stewart found Moorcroft's Saxifrage to be common in Kashmir @ 3000-4200m
> with records from above Gulmarg, Khelanmarg, Kolahoi, Sonamarg etc.
>
> Flowers of Himalaya says Pakistan to SW China on alpine slopes @
> 3600-4500m.
>
> I do not consider it to be S.parnassifolia (which I have seen in Nepal)
> which has not been recorded NW of Uttarakhand (according to 'Flowers of
> Himalaya' - though there is a somewhat dubious record from Kashmir).
> Flowers of Himalaya distinguishes S.parnassifolia from S.moorcroftiana on
> the basis of basal leaves broadly ovate with heart-shaped base (narrowed to
> leaf-stalk in S.moorcroftiana) with upper leaves triangular heart-shaped
> with clasping rounded lobes with smaller petals 5-7mm). One cannot make out
> the basal or upper leaves in the photos or judge the length of petals but
> think the 7-10mm for S.moorcroftiana more likely.
>
> Flowers of Himalaya says 3600-4500m - the lower limit is quite a bit
> higher than where this was photographed but the part of the Rohtang I saw
> what I consider to be S.moorcroftiana, growing abundantly was close to
> 3100m (or perhaps even lower).  Stewart's information for Kashmir of 3000m
> is likely to be correct. *Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal
> (the main reference for 'Flowers of the Himalaya' with the Natural History
> Museum in London being the authors' reference herbarium, gives a lower
> limit of 2400m, so clearly a mistake was made in Polunin & Stainton's book
> - there are a number, not many but they do exist; we all make mistakes*).
>
> Collet called a plant he found to be rare at Shimla but common at Mushobra
> and Mahasu Saxifraga diversifolia.  He considered it "typical"
> S.parnassifolia.  He thought S.moorcroftiana which grew on the "Chor" was
> much taller and more robust with lanceolate or oblong leaves 5-10cm
> long, FBI included both under S.diversifolia.  *Clearly, there has been
> confusion and differences of opinion about separating these species.*
>
> Stewart had S.diversifolia var. moorcroftiana as a synonym of Saxifraga
> moorcroftiana - he felt the true S.diversifolia was only found West of
> Kashmir.
>
> On Friday, September 9, 2016 at 9:51:09 AM UTC+1, ashwini wrote:
>
>> Found a couple of plants of this Saxifrage at 3200 and above. The red
>> dots on the petals are conspicuous. The habit and leaves (smaller) are
>> similar to *S. parnassifolia*. Could this be *S. moorcroftiana*?
>>
>> *Saxifraga moorcroftaiana*—Moorcroft's Saxifrage?
>> Above Triund, HP
>> 3100m
>> 03-04 September 2016
>>
>> Thanks.
>> Ashwini
>>
>>
>>
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