Thanks, Chadwell ji On 19 Nov 2016 7:16 pm, "[email protected]" < [email protected]> wrote:
> *I currently cannot put a firm name on this - shall comment further in due > course. *I am in agreement that this definitely not G.wallichianum. > *It does seem to come within the G.collinum-pratense-himalayense complex* > but is not within what I understand to be G.himalayense from Ladakh. > > > > In 'The Valley of Flowers' book G.pratense, collinum, wallichianum and > grevilleanum (now G.lambertii) are listed. > > > > Let me try to explain. In the Notes Yeo supplied me, he draws attention > to the problematical G.collinum-pratense-himalayense alliance. He > considered this was particularly critical in the NW Himalaya with high > quality pressed specimens needed (nowadays these can be supplemented and > sometimes replaced by high quality digital images (provided the advice > given below is followed). This alliance has pink to blue flowers > (sometimes white) in which the stamen-tip and stigmas are never > blackish-purple... > > > > > I consider it will be helpful for keen photographers, willing to make an > additional effort, to know which parts of Geranium to photograph. Having > images of such parts of each geranium will greatly aid identification and > enhance our understanding of the genus in the Himalaya - and perhaps you > can help with the locating and identification of a species new-to-science! > > > > > > PHOTOGRAPHING GERANIUMS: > > > > *IF only the first one or two flowers have come out don't bother to > collect as the form of inflorescence will not be evident.* > > > *The rootstock is important; get enough to show whether compact or > creeping, or annual. You can photograph the base of the plant which should > provide this information. Clearly, one requires permission from the > authorities to uproot a plant. There is still a need and indeed role for > the collection of pressed specimens for herbaria in India but that is > primarily the domain of staff of botanic gardens/ institutions.* > > * In the early stages of flowering look out for the best-developed unripe > fruits available.* > > * If fruit is ripe try to include both dehisced and undehisced states.* > > * If the fruits are falling with the seeds inside them, collect some (many > geraniums disperse their seed explosively but some seed is often retained).* > > *Include some loose petals when pressing (detach if necessary). Expose > stamens to show filament shape and hairs by taking 2 or 3 sepals off a > flower from which petals have recently dropped.* > > *Smoothing out one or two leaves and flowers as you close the press may be > helpful; a few separately pressed basal and lower/middle stem leaves are > often useful.* > > *Wilted specimens can be very misleading.* > > *Notes should be taken as to flower posture, colour and patterning of > petals, colour of stigmas, anthers and distal parts of filaments (not > necessary if your photos show these).* > > *And don't forget to ensure the stipules are clearly shown - something > that would have been obviously in pressed specimens, so not mentioned above > by Yeo.* > > > On Wednesday, August 29, 2012 at 3:36:53 PM UTC+1, Dinesh Valke wrote: >> >> [image: Valley of Flowers] >> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7795632618%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfiscXcV1ezkljkoVaSBkd-7VO2FQ> >> 2 AUG 12 >> Valley of Flowers ... about 11200 ft >> ------------------------------ >> Dear friends, ID please. >> *Habitat*: sloping meadow >> *Habit*: small herb, about 40 - 60 cm high; flower about 3 - 4 cm across >> >> >> [image: ¿ Geranium ?] >> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7813164858%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEze4RW8sgM5_OFuNkKrb9f0VX8V-pA> >> >> [image: ¿ Geranium ?] >> <http://www.google.com/url?q=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flickr.com%2Fphotos%2Fdinesh_valke%2F7813209052%2F&sa=D&sntz=1&usg=AFrqEzfuGFWhJ9eS15OIztmjjoKRyPjjPg> >> Regards. >> Dinesh >> > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
