Thanks, Chadwell ji

On 22 Nov 2016 7:44 am, "[email protected]" <
[email protected]> wrote:

> *I have, after typing out what is below, just noticed that the FOI site
> has the plant photographed from this spot by Mohan identified as
> P.bracteosa - I wish someone had told me this, if they knew!   Anyhow, it
> does not alter my thoughts.  If Mohan or anyone else can return to the spot
> and photograph the plants at the fruiting stage, the 'mystery' will be
> resolved and give us clues as to what to look out for in the early stages
> of flowering.  Or if the specimen they come across is in flower, then make
> sure you look closely to the base of the stalk of an individual flower
> (i.e. pedicel) to check if it is part of an umbel (and then peduncle) or
> not.*
>
> I am in agreement with the posting by Dr Bawri but would like to elaborate
> and provide additional information.  Richards in 'Primula' (2003) says that
> P.gracilipes takes and intermediate position between the tighter, dwarfer
> P.petiolaris (I think only recorded from Nepal and Darjeeling-side, which
> if correct eliminates this from consideration for an AP specimen) and the
> larger, laxer P.bracteosa.
>
> 'Flora of Bhutan' (covering Bhutan and Sikkim, so close to AP) give a key
> that separates P.deuteronana (which the AP plant is not), P.gracilipes and
> P.petiolaris from P.irregularis, P.bracteosa and P.scapigera on the basis
> of: Flowers borne on pedicels amongst leaves of basal rosette, peduncles
> absent in flower and fruit - *P.gracilipes* cf. Flowers borne on distinct
> peduncle (often very short in flower), which elongates in fruit -
> *P.bracteosa*.
>
> *They also have slight but diagnostic differences in the shape of the
> calyx according to Richards but unhelpfully he does not say what.
> According to 'Flora of Bhutan' the only differences I can understand are
> shape of calyx teeth but these are similar.  Such differences cannot be
> seen in most photos taken of Primulas.  There is a calyx visible (albeit
> not very close) in the photo from AP but this does not really help much.
> So am still uncertain.*
>
>
> *As to "peduncles" and "pedicels".  I think it would help to try and
> explain the difference.  In P.gracilipes there is no peduncle as each
> individual flower is borne on a slender pedicel (the stalk of an individual
> flower) from amongst the rosette of leaves.  A peduncle is the stalk of the
> inflorescence which in the case of P.bracteosa is present (and elongates in
> fruit) as seen in the herbarium specimen at Kew:
> http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000750225
> <http://apps.kew.org/herbcat/getImage.do?imageBarcode=K000750225>.  This
> species has a single umbel of 3-17 flowers (each with a pedicel)*
>
>
> On Monday, April 7, 2008 at 6:03:12 PM UTC+1, Mohan Kemparaju wrote:
>
>> Hi All,
>> I made this image in Lama, Eaglenest NP, Arunachal Pradesh
>> About 2400 m from sea level.
>> Would appreciate the id.
>>
>> Regards
>> Mohan
>>
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