Thank you once again for pointing me to this. Next spring I will carefully 
examine the leaf undersurface too.

Regards,
Ashwini


> On 22 Nov 2016, at 09:47, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Thanks, Chadwell ji
> 
> 
> On 22 Nov 2016 9:43 am, "[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>" <[email protected] 
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
> Lovely images again.
> 
> Stewart listed Bergenia himalaica (syn. B.ciliata var. ligulata, B.ligulata) 
> as common & gregarious on shady cliffs @ 1800-3000m in Kashmir.
> 
> He mentioned B.ciliata var. ciliata as only recorded from Hazara and Kagan 
> Valley.   There has clearly been confusion between these similar taxa.
> 
> Ghazanfar in Saxifragaceae (Flora of Pakistan, 1977) recognised only 2 
> species in Pakistan: B.stracheyi and B.ciliata, splitting the latter into 
> forma ciliata
> and forma ligulata on the basis of the hirsute leaves of the former (though 
> sometimes glabrous upper surface)..  She considered forma ciliata as very 
> common on rocks in and around the Murree area. 
> 
> Nowadays, B.ciliata forma ligulata (or B.himalaica as Stewart knew it) is 
> Bergenia pacumbis.  I think the plant photographed by Ashwini is this rather 
> than what is now the separate B.ciliata (the bottom image just shows the 
> under surface of a leaf which is shiny, not hirsute) - though I think there 
> has been confusion between some forms of both.
> 
> The plant used medicinally is mainly or perhaps exclusively Bergenia pacumbis 
> incl. the specimens I saw being cultivated in the Medicinal Plants Section of 
> the Nehru Botanical Garden, Srinagar, Kashmir.
> 
> On Monday, March 28, 2016 at 3:43:29 AM UTC+1, ashwini wrote:
> Yesterday I accompanied a friend and my daughter for a walk in the mountains. 
> We walked mainly along the south facing slopes at an average altitude of 
> about 1850m before walking down to 1800m for a tea near a small mountain 
> stream. Along the way I saw my first Bergenia. The first plant I saw was 
> growing out of a stone wall with small flowers and young round leaves. 
> Farther into our walk, I saw another cluster with larger flowers and much 
> larger leaves. Here are some photographs. Please advise if I have 
> misidentified the plant.
> 
> Bergenia ciliata—Hairy Bergenia
> Above Mcleodganj, Dharamshala, HP
> 1800m
> 27 March 2016
> 
> Thanks.
> Ashwini
> 
> 
> 
> 
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