Thanks, Chadwell ji On 7 Dec 2016 2:38 am, "[email protected]" < [email protected]> wrote:
> Gentiana (and now related genera) is a difficult genus, as I have said > previously. > > > Distinguishing between G.carinata and similar species is complicated. > What a pity that Gentian specialist Aitken at Edinburgh is no longer > available to resolve such matters for us. > > Stewart (back in 1972) recorded G.carinata from 2400-3600m in Kashmir and > var. intermedia Clarke from Sonamrag and Suru/Zanskar in Ladakh (also > 2400-3600m). > > I have seen what MIGHT be G.carinata on many occasions in Kashmir. He > observed that G.carinata proper was said to have fimbriae in the throat > whilst the var. intermedia does not. Stansfield of Liverpool said > G.carinata has versatile anthers whilst they are basifixed in G.coronata. > Clearly, such characteristics cannot be observed in normal photos of > gentians. > > Apparently, at Kew a great many specimens from Kashmir and adjacent areas > are in a cover Gentiana coronata (D.Don ex Royle) DC. but Stewart did not > consider them to match the plant figured by Royle. Burkill stated that the > type was in too bad a condition for use. > > *Stewart found the G.marginata, G.carinata, G.coronata group very > difficult and in his opinion needed more study.* > > *I cannot readily check if Aitken at Edinburgh had satisfactorily resolved > such matters? I do not know if the characteristics 'Flowers of Himalaya' > use to distinguish between G.carinata and G.marginata are authoritative?* > > *At some stage, I would like to take a serious look at Gentianaceae of NW > Himalaya but this is quite a challenge and have yet to find the time to > focus properly on the family. SO many other genera belonging to other > families also urgently need attention (indeed revision). So many families > and genera are poorly known in the Himalaya.* > > > *Certainly more photos in good close-ups showing detail of the corolla, > throat of flowers and calyx-lobes would help.* > > > *Cannot comment further at this stage. * > > > On Friday, June 17, 2011 at 7:32:56 AM UTC+1, raj wrote: > >> Dear Friends, >> >> Gentianaceae Sp for ID from Gulmarg, Kashmir >> >> -- >> With Regards, >> Narendra Joshi >> >> -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "efloraofindia" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. > For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
