Dear ALL,
I think plants in the first two photos and last one is the same both
are *Abutilon
indicum ssp indicum.* The only difference between the two plants are the
prescence of purple tinge at the centre. I have learnt that *A. indicum ssp
indicum* can have both these floral varieties and they are not regarded as a
separated taxon for this reason.
Regards
Tanay

On Sat, Mar 27, 2010 at 11:49 AM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:

> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise pl.
>
> Earlier relevant feedback:
>
> “The abutilon species can easily be identified by the number of mericarps
> in the fruit.
>
>
> 1. Carpels
> 5.................................................................................A.persicum
> 1. carpels more than
> 10......................................................................2
> 2. carpels with distinct
> mucro..............................................................3
> 2. carpels without a mucro or
> obtuse.....................................................A. glaucum
> 3. Plant pilose with long silky hairs, carpels hairy ultimately
> shining......A. indicum ssp. guineense
> 3. Plant not as above, carpels densely hairy, ultimately shaggy (pic
> 3)...A. indicum ssp. indicum
>
>
>
>
> for abutilon persicum refer
> http://www.flickr.com/photos/dinesh_valke/4356251230/
>
>
> *I think your first two pic is of Abutilon glaucum (cav) Sweet which is
> Abutilon pannosum (Forst.f.) Schlecht.
> *http://www.efloras.org/object_page.aspx?object_id=60117&flora_id=5
>
>
> for Abutilon indicum ssp. indicum
> http://www.malvaceae.info/Genera/Abutilon/galleryS.html
>
>
> ALSO REFER THIS RESEARCH PAPER. I feel this may solve all teh confusion
> http://flora.huh.harvard.edu/china//PDF/PDF12/Abutilon.pdf
>
> Regards
> Satish Pardeshi
> Consultant Taxonomist”
>
>
> *“I think all these pictures represent two different forms (with & without
> purple center in corolla) Abutilon indicum subsp. indicum*.” from
> Vijayasankar ji.
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: A.Sinha <[email protected]>
> Date: 11 January 2010 00:09
> Subject: [indiantreepix:26216] abutilon sp ..... please comment
> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
>
>
> Greetings.
> Attached are two Abutilon pics from outskirts of Bangalore.
> I  used the   FlowersofIndia  and ENVIS descriptions and find that A fits
> into Abutilon indicum, althought I cannot rule out glaucum.
>
> Plant A had smaller and more deicate flowers, very velvety leaves, petals,
> mildly hairy stems
> The other (163...IMG) is a bigger , more robust plant,  The other one , B,
> with  distinct  maroon/purple centre and does not match any desc.   very
> fully
>
> So my  doubts remain and i would appreciate  an ID and  some comments on
> distinguishing the 3  species persicum glaucum and indicum.
>
> 1.  FOI :  A.persicum : "purple lines",  whereas ENVIS  gives A.indicum a
> "purple centre".
> 2.  What is the significant  difference between A. indicum and  A, glaucum
> ? ( and What is the 'ragged mallow ' referring to ?
>
> regrrds,
> A. Sinha
>
>
>
>
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