Dear Mr. Chadwell,

Thanks for the compliments. I sure will try to contribute more such images of 
high Himalayan plants.


Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)


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From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of C CHADWELL <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 28, 2016 8:51 AM
To: gurinder goraya; efloraofindia
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:260183] Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra

I enjoyed your images particularly the one showing the pods so well combined
with a distant view of the mountains.  Such 'habitat' shots are so informative 
- it
really is important to know and understand the conditions under which a plant 
grows,
rather than just its identity.  Such insights are often completely missing from 
pressed
specimens in herbaria (regardless of their quality) as accompanying field notes 
are so
often minimal to zero and even when detailed cannot match what a good photo 
imparts.
Field experience and knowledge is under-valued and something contributing 
members of
this group can contribute much valuable information towards by posting their 
images.

Do share more such images of a variety of species with us.  My compliments.

As to identity.  The broadly winged fruits appear quite distinctive (not that I 
have gone
into the Brassicaceae family in any detail yet) and as far as is thought at 
present, only
1 species to consider - which always comes as a relief! Of course we must 
always STEEL
ourselves for a future revision to recognise additional taxa.  Plus someone 
check that
there has not been a nomenclatural or taxonomic change as far as genus or 
family is
concerned....


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk<http://www.shpa.org.uk/>
Chris Chadwell<http://www.shpa.org.uk/>
www.shpa.org.uk
Chris Chadwell - Freelance Lecturer, Botanist, Himalaya Specialist, Travel and 
Plant Photographer, Freelance photo-journalist








________________________________
From: gurinder goraya <gurind...@hotmail.com>
To: "chrischadwell...@btinternet.com" <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>; 
efloraofindia <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, 24 December 2016, 3:31
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:259925] Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra

Dears,

I have dug up a couple of images I clicked at altitude of about 4000 m asl in 
September 2014 while on a trek to a high altitude lake in Shimla district of 
Himachal Pradesh. I am attaching these two images I think are of Megacarpaea 
polyandra.

Kindly confirm.

Regards,


Dr. G S Goraya, IFS
Deputy Director General (Research),
Indian Council of Forestry Research & Education,
New Forest P.O., Dehradun - 248006.
(Uttarakhand, India)
Tel. (+91-941-802-5036)


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From: indiantreepix@googlegroups.com <indiantreepix@googlegroups.com> on behalf 
of chrischadwell...@btinternet.com <chrischadwell...@btinternet.com>
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 6:58 AM
To: efloraofindia
Cc: chrischadwell...@btinternet.com
Subject: [efloraofindia:259592] Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra

Thanks for your interesting comments Dr Rawat.

Hopefully, members can now spot and post better, digital images including 
quality close-ups of this plant.   I find many
Apiaceae have attractive or at least curious parts to them, well worth showing 
in detail - as I do when giving digital presentations
on 'Wild Flowers of Britain' to audiences in the UK.   I will check my images 
of UK members of this family and if any
exhibiting such characteristics belong to genera or, ideally, species found in 
the Himalaya, may post some.

Many people in the UK will "dismiss" or walk past plants belonging to 
particular families or genera viewing them of rather 'weedy
appearance' missing genuine beauty if they examined them more closely.

I have been "Hit" by the additional detail my digital images bring when 
examining UK plants closely in the past couple of years compared
with what I had seen with the naked eye and hand lens back in the 1980s when I 
worked for a couple of years a field-surveyor of plants. I
also notice the extra detail I can see compared with the books published at 
that time containing photographs of British Wild Flowers.  How
fortunate we are nowadays.

On Sunday, December 18, 2016 at 7:47:05 AM UTC, JM Garg wrote:
Thanks, Chadwell ji.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: C CHADWELL <chrischa...@btinternet. com>
Date: 18 December 2016 at 12:45
Subject: Re: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


Yes - again!    See attached.


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk<http://www.shpa.org.uk/>






________________________________
From: J.M. Garg <jmg...@gmail.com>
To: chrischa...@btinternet. com
Sent: Sunday, 18 December 2016, 7:08
Subject: Fwd: Megacarpaea polyandra

I think you missed the attachment.

---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: C CHADWELL <chrischa...@btinternet. com>
Date: 18 December 2016 at 11:45
Subject: Megacarpaea polyandra
To: "J.M. Garg" <jmg...@gmail.com>


Since we are looking at tall umbellifers at present incl. Angelicas, thought of 
sharing this.

I attach a single image scanned in from a not especially good slide taken of a 
plant
in cultivation by Alastair McKelvie in the UK.

Looks like a first for eFI, so this is especially useful.

I have never 'encountered' Megacarpaea polyandra in the Himalaya myself.

Flowers of Himalaya says open slopes, light forests @ 3000-4300m from Kashmir 
to C.Nepal.

Stewart recorded 2 species from N.Pakistan and Kashmir:

M.bifida - N.Pakistan
M.polyandra - Kashmir, where he said it was used for greens; 3000-3900m. 
Records from Khelanmarg
and 'W.Tibet'.

M.polyandra is not mentioned in 'Plants of Gulmarg' Naqshi, Singh & Koul.

Has it been seen in Uttarakhand in recent years?  It is given in a 
Supplementary List of plants collected by
Holdsworth in the 'Valley of Flowers' and Upper Garwhal within the book 'The 
Valley of Flowers'.


Best Wishes,


Chris Chadwell


81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK

www.shpa.org.uk<http://www.shpa.org.uk/>







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