Thanks for this I shall comment further about G.collinum in due course.
For the time being, Dickore & Klimes in the most up-to-date check-list for
Ladakh only list Geranium himalayense, G.pratense
susbp.stewartianum, G.regelii and G.sibiricum.
The Geranium collected by my team during the Southampton University Ladakh
Expedition1980 number 12 was identified at Kew as Geranium collinum Willd. -
found at 3200m in grassy verge byirrigation channel of barley field at Panichar
in Suru Valley. Moist loamy soil. With Senecio chrysanthemoides,& grasses.
Petals pale mauve with purple lines, some lilac almost white but still with
purple veins.The member of the Kew staff who determined the specimen had been
to Afghanistan (where I currentlyconsider G.collinum is found) and assumed our
geranium was this species but that was 35 years ago.
I now consider this to be Geranium himalayense Klotsch (syn. G.grandiflorum).
The Geranium collected during the Southampton University Expedition to Zanskar,
1981 was named atthe Natural History Museum, London as Geranium cf. meeboldii.
This, No.1, was the first specimen thatteam collected - at 3350m; it was
abundant in sandy/clay soil along irrigation channels around field at Padum;the
channel banks were moist and sometimes full of water.
I now consider this to be Geranium himalayense Klotsch (syn. G.grandiflorum).
However, I do not consider the geranium photographed by Khan & Badwhar to be
this species but adifferent one, not currently on eFI.
Please note that some specimens I find hard to distinguish between
G.himalayense and this species -I have attempted to explain already (and shall
elaborate) on the challenges some Geraniums presentidentification-wise.
I shall comment further once I have received (studied) a copy of a relevant
book which I have been ableto order second-hand at a modest cost in aid of one
of Air Ambulance Services.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>
Sent: Sunday, 25 December 2016, 8:43
Subject: Fwd: Geraniums in Ladakh Part I
Forwardingagain for Id confirmation or otherwise please.Some earlierrelevant
feedback:
| These seem to match my specimens of Geranium collinum.Dr. Gurcharan Singh
|
---------- Forwarded message ----------
From: C CHADWELL <[email protected]>
Date: 14 December 2016 at 00:58
Subject: Geraniums in Ladakh Part I
To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
I am posting some fine images of a showy Geranium taken in Ladakh by Feroze
Khan & Mudita Badhwarsupplied through Deepak Badwhar.
I know what I consider this species to be but would be informative for members
of thisgroup to offer suggestions or if they can, a firm identification.
Intend to post images of other Geraniums from Ladakh.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
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