Pl. look at your posts under Ribes himalense <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/a---l/g/grossulariaceae/ribes/ribes-himalense> in view of the comments by Chadwell ji as below: "............ I note that images a Ribes from VOF have been named as R.himalense. This needs to be checked. Flowers of the Himalaya say "in drier areas only" for this species and I do not think VOF counts as a 'drier' area. Also, if one refers to the book, 'Valley of Flowers' it has Ribes glaciale Wall. .............."
---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: J.M. Garg <[email protected]> Date: 1 January 2017 at 08:26 Subject: Fwd: Ribes orientale Desf. - new to eFI; Ribes a neglected genus.... To: efloraofindia <[email protected]> Cc: [email protected] Thanks a lot, Chadwell ji ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> Date: 1 Jan 2017 6:12 a.m. Subject: Ribes orientale Desf. - new to eFI; Ribes a neglected genus.... To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> Cc: As "light relief" from more complicated and time-consuming genera combined with the pleasure of viewing 'habitat' images in the mountains, I have been taking a further look at specimens photographed in Baltistan (part of which is in the Karakoram Range not the 'Himalaya' or 'TransHimalaya'). However, in the case of Ribes, the situation is not straightforward. The genus needs further study and perhaps revision in the Himalaya. Let us start with what I understand to be R.orientale, see: http://photos.v-d-brink.eu/Flora-and-Fauna/Asia/Pakistan-new/i-ZJzSv39 Flowers of the Himalaya record this on stony slopes and amongst rocks @ 2100-4000m from Afghanistan to W.Nepal, Bhutan, SW China, W & C Asia & Greece. Stewart knew this as very common and very variable in arid regions in Pakistan, Ladakh & Kashmir @ 2400-3900m. He agreed with Parker & Hooker in treating this as one variable taxon. Schoenbeck-Temesy in Flora Iranica monographed Ribes. He split R.orientale into 3: R.orientale proper, R.heterotrichum & R.villosum. Stewart felt that those collecting currants in the inner mountains should study the R.orientale complex to see if there really are 3 distinct species; he suspected they intergraded. *I note that images a Ribes from VOF have been named as R.himalense. This needs to be checked. Flowers of the Himalaya* *say "in drier areas only" for this species and I do not think VOF counts as a 'drier' area. Also, if one refers to the book, * *'Valley of Flowers' it has Ribes glaciale Wall. * *But I consider the whole genus has been under-collected in terms of pressed specimens for herbaria and neglected photographically.* *So please, would be photographers in this group look out for and photographed (in good close-up) any specimens they encounter* *both at the fruiting and flowering stages.* Dickore & Klimes record R.glaciale, R.nigrum and R.orientale for Ladakh. Flora of Lahaul-Spiti says R.himalense has black berries, whereas 'Flowers of Himalaya' say red..... Best Wishes, Chris Chadwell 81 Parlaunt Road SLOUGH SL3 8BE UK www.shpa.org.uk -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). The whole world uses my Image Resource <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as per Creative Commons license attached with each image. Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of India'. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
