Thanks, Chadwell ji. On 16 January 2017 at 22:06, C CHADWELL <[email protected]> wrote:
> The common xerophytic rose in Ladakh in Rosa webbiana. > > Dickore & Klimes only record this pink-flowered species (plus > some yellow-flowered ones) in Ladakh. There is a prominent yellow- > flowered rose in the Miyah Nullah, Lahoul during the treks I led there > in the mid-1980s, which I understood to be R.foetida but has been > confused with R.eglanteria. Will need to check what the current thinking > is? > > I think these images fit satisfactorily this species but one has to be > aware of the possibility of Rosa macrophylla (like Rosa sericea, this > varies a good deal when growing under different conditions). > > Stewart describes R.webbiana as the beautiful, pink, very spiny xerophytic > rose of > N.Pakistan & Ladakh (he does not record it from Kashmir Valley) @ > 1500-4050m. > He found it sometimes hard to distinguish from R.macrophylla. Koelz > stated that > R.webbiana does not spread by suckers but that R.macrophylla does. > > I have seen what I consider to be Rosa macrophylla on the Rohtang > and above Koksar in Lahaul. > > I must admit to wondering if the xerophytic rose I came across in the > Mustang > District of the Upper Kali Gandaki, on my first visit to Nepal was a form > of Rosa > webbiana I was unfamiliar with - *it was in fact Rosa sericea.* > > The forms of Rosa webbiana in the Kashmir Valley look a bit different to > those > in Ladakh and there is a dwarf variant which I saw on the hill (mountain) > above > Dal Lake, known at one time as Rosa nanothamnus Boulenger but included > with R.webbiana > by some authors, to consider. Stewart lists this from N.Pakistan & > Kashmir @ 1500-2700m, > saying it is replaced by R.webbiana in the dry inner valleys. > > There are a number of roses both cultivated and perhaps wild, in Kashmir I > am uncertain > about. > > Since a link was provided to Rosa webbiana entries on eFI, I think it will > be worthwhile if > I take a quick look at these and give my INITIAL thoughts. > > I suspect it may be worthwhile me posting what images I have of roses in > the Himalaya. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Cc:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]> > *Sent:* Monday, 16 January 2017, 12:20 > *Subject:* Fwd: Rosa webbiana Wall. (accepted name) ??? > > Forwarding again for Id assistance please. > Some earlier relevant feedback: > efi page on Rosa webbiana > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/species/m---z/r/rosaceae/rosa/rosa-webbiana> > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *Saroj Kasaju* <[email protected]> > Date: 3 January 2017 at 20:32 > Subject: Rosa webbiana Wall. (accepted name) ??? > To: efloraofindia <[email protected]>, "J.M. Garg" < > [email protected]> > > > Dear Members, > > Location: Nubra Valley, Leh > Altitude: 10000 ft. > Date: 22 August 2014 > > Thank you. > > Saroj Kasaju > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). 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