Thanks, Chadwell ji. On 20 January 2017 at 12:04, C CHADWELL <[email protected]> wrote:
> I leave it others to 'decide' or 'debate' or 'interpret' as to the > 'accepted' nomenclature/taxonomic > treatment of Actaea/Cimicifuga. > > The MOST important aspect is correct IDENTIFICATION. Names change (and > sometimes > change back) and with different revisions of genera there are further > alterations. > > The fundamental point is the need for accurately IDENTIFYING plants - > regardless of which name is > applied to them by various 'sources'. > > Stewart included the Actaea and Cimicifuga within Ranunculaceae in his > 'Annotated Catalogue' in 1972, > calling them Actaea spicata and Cimicifuga foetida respectively. The > plants (species/taxa) he knew ARE > the plants I am referring to - whatever their current names and I > consider the photos I sent from Khelanmarg > are of what Stewart knew as C.foetida a plant which can be separated from > what Stewart knew as A.spicata. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected]; Anzar Khuroo <[email protected]>; > D.S Rawat <[email protected]>; Gurcharan Singh < > [email protected]> > *Sent:* Thursday, 19 January 2017, 7:27 > *Subject:* Fwd: Actaea cimicifolia (syn. Cimcifuga foetida) Part II > > Forwarding again for validation or otherwise please. > > However, both as per The Plant List Ver.1.1 > <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/kew-2620578> & Catalogue of > Life > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/a2ea86ed29b880ccd34a391c1cecfa9c/synonym/08b22a9ab815803b23cd611608c943a1> > , *Actaea* *spicata* var. *acuminata* (Wall. ex Royle) H.Hara is the > accepted name. > > *Actaea asiatica *H. Hara > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/58aec6c50bd1bac56fa89399fc4dcc6e> > is another accepted species with distribution in Russian Far East, Japan > (Hokkaido, Honshu, Shikoku, Kyushu), China (Gansu, Hebei, Heilongjiang, > Hubei, Jilin, Liaoning, Nei Mongol, Qinghai, Shaanxi, Shanxi, Sichuan, > Tibet, Yunnan), North Korea, South Korea as per catalogue of Life. > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *C CHADWELL* <[email protected]> > Date: 5 January 2017 at 03:30 > Subject: Actaea cimicifolia (syn. Cimcifuga foetida) Part II > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > > There is confusion between the foliage of what is now > Actaea asiatica (previously A.spicata var. acuminate) and > that of what is now Actaea cimicifuga (previously Cimcifuga foetida) > > See: https://groups.google.com/ forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/ yRZ8jRLWU9Y > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/indiantreepix/yRZ8jRLWU9Y> > > I have taken the liberty of adding images of Rawat, Singh & Khuroo to one > of mine on a single 'slide' and attaching for comparative purposes. See > below. > > I consider my image and that of Dr Rawat are of plants which have been > correctly identified. > > I think there has been a mix-up with Dr Khuroo's samples of foliage. The > left-hand sample appears to me to be A.cimicifuga not A.asiatica. I am > uncertain about the right hand image. It is not A.cimicifuga but may not > be A.asiatica either. Fuller specimens (showing the lower parts as well) > would have helped. > > As for Dr Singh's image. Is this A.asiatica or A.cimicifuga? > > *What do members think?* > > > > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). 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