Thanks Gurucharan ji for sharing valuable experience. I still dream to live
such life and contribute to the science in this way. Thanks again.

regards

Pankaj Oudhia

2010/3/30 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>

> Thanks Pankaj ji
> I would convey when ever I would recollect any. Such things really make
> interactions interesting. Just to share one or two:
> 1. I was collecting in Gulmarg forest in Kashmir nearly 38 years back when
> a local came to me saying that there is a plant known as sarap (snake in
> kashmiri) buti (plant) under which snake lives and if you pluck that plant
> the snake would bite. He was taken aback  when I opened my bag to show him
> several plants of Arisaema. And then I told him that it is known as sarap
> buti (Cobra plant) because the spathe resembles a cobra hood and not that
> snake lives under it.
> 2. Second time around same years I was collecting weeds of saffron fields,
> and had collected several plants of Iris reticulata (which grows only in
> saffron fields of Pampore in Kashmir, and also in persia) when the saffron
> grower started accusing me that I had stolen saffron from his field. I tried
> to convince him that it was not saffron (resemble saffron but flowers are
> much different and appear in March, whereas saffron flowers in October), but
> in vain, but it convinced me that this Iris which resembles saffron in
> leaves as well as the corm like bulbs, would have come with saffron from
> Persia, which is considered as secondary source of origin of Kashmir
> saffron. The saffron was originally introduced from France, but it is
> believed that all corms of saffron were eaten by local people
> during severe famine in Kashmir, and saffron now in Kashmir was later
> introduced from Persia. This episode with saffron grower earned me a
> publication on ''Origin of Kashmir saffron" supported by Iris reticulata and
> a few more weeds which grow in Persia and Saffron fields of Kashmir and not
> in Europe.
>
>
> --
> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
> Retired  Associate Professor
> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>
>
> 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>
>
>> Thanks Gurucharan ji,
>>
>> I said Azad means free and Darakht means Big Tree (in Urdu).
>>
>> Are you aware of more examples like it?
>>
>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>
>> 2010/3/30 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>
>> Yes Pankaj ji
>>> You are right about "Azad Darakht". This is what our Chief Conservator of
>>> Forests in J & K had informed us 40 years back. But yes, a small
>>> modification Azad means free and not big. The plant grows freely, and would
>>> come up though self sowing and no plantation drives are needed. I hope you
>>> will agree.
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/ <http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>
>>> 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>
>>>
>>>> Satish ji,
>>>>
>>>> Darkht means Big tree in Urdu.
>>>>
>>>> Pankaj Oudhia
>>>>
>>>>  2010/3/30 Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
>>>>
>>>>> What does that दरख्त mean?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2010/3/30 Pankaj Oudhia <[email protected]>
>>>>>
>>>>> And if I am not wrong Azadirachta is originated from "Azad Darakht"
>>>>>> आजाद दरख्त
>>>>>>
>>>>>>  पंकज अवधिया
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2010/3/30 Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For many days I was wondering why you had said that "*Melia
>>>>>>> azadirachta** *and *Azadirachta indica* are same" On Careful
>>>>>>> searching I understood my mistake.
>>>>>>> Your sentence is absolutely correct.
>>>>>>> The spelling of the other plant with Lilac staminal tube is in fact
>>>>>>> *Melia azedarach L*.and not Melia azadirachta which may be many of
>>>>>>> us were believing like me.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2010/3/10 Gurcharan Singh <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Satish ji
>>>>>>>> Melia azadirachta and Azadirachta indica are same, latter being the
>>>>>>>> correct name now. The plant uploaded by you is clearly Melia azedarach 
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> bipinnate leaves and more importantly mauve coloured flowers. Former is
>>>>>>>> known as neem and latter Darek (Hindi), Mahanim or Gora neem. The plant
>>>>>>>> uploaded by Swagat seems to have bipinnate leaves and fruits which 
>>>>>>>> resemble
>>>>>>>> Melia azedarach, but after I had second look at the plant, it has 
>>>>>>>> whitish
>>>>>>>> flowers (like neem) but much more denser. It may turn out to be none of
>>>>>>>> these two species. The margin of leaflets also suggests that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Dr. Gurcharan Singh
>>>>>>>> Retired  Associate Professor
>>>>>>>> SGTB Khalsa College, University of Delhi, Delhi-110007
>>>>>>>> Res: 932 Anand Kunj, Vikas Puri, New Delhi-110018.
>>>>>>>> Phone: 011-25518297  Mob: 9810359089
>>>>>>>> http://people.du.ac.in/~singhg45/<http://people.du.ac.in/%7Esinghg45/>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> 2010/3/10 Satish Phadke <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In "पु. ल. देशपांडे उद्यान" on Sinhagad road A lot of these trees
>>>>>>>>> have been planted on Western boundary
>>>>>>>>> Dr Phadke
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> 2010/3/8 Swagat <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> *'Azadirachta indica' **syn.* *'Melia azadirachta' *is called *
>>>>>>>>>> 'Nimbara'* *'निंबारा' *in Marathi.
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Date/Time- *01st March 2010, 11.40 a.m.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> *Location- Place, Altitude, GPS-  *On the way from Tonrna Fort to
>>>>>>>>>> Madheghat, Tahasil-Velhe, Dist. Pune, Maharashtra  तोरणा किल्‍ला ते 
>>>>>>>>>> मढेघाट
>>>>>>>>>> या वाटेवर, ता.- वेल्‍हा, जि.- पुणे, महाराष्‍ट्र
>>>>>>>>>> *Habitat- Garden/ Urban/ Wild/ Type- *Wild
>>>>>>>>>> *Plant Habit- Tree/ Shrub/ Climber/ Herb-  *Tree
>>>>>>>>>> *Height/Length-
>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>> *Leaves Type/ Shape/ Size-
>>>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>>> *Inflorescence Type/ Size-
>>>>>>>>>>   *
>>>>>>>>>> *Flowers Size/ Colour/ Calyx/ Bracts-
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Fruits Type/ Shape/ Size Seeds-
>>>>>>>>>>  *
>>>>>>>>>> *Other Information like Fragrance, Pollinator, Uses etc.- *
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> ~Swagat
>>>>>>>>>> 9223217568 / 9422317979
>>>>>>>>>> **
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> 'I am only one; but still I am one. I cannot do everything, but
>>>>>>>>>> still I can do something; I will not refuse to do the something I 
>>>>>>>>>> can do.' -
>>>>>>>>>> Helen Keller
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