Thanks, Chadwell ji On 20 Jan 2017 1:21 p.m., "[email protected]" < [email protected]> wrote:
> According to Enumeration of the Flowering Plants of Nepal, Cynoglossum > amabile has been recorded from Nepal but this is ONLY on the basis of > a specimen gathered by Bailey's collector from an unknown collector. It > was identified by Johnston the Boraginaceae specilalist but the Hara, who > covered > Boraginaceae for the Enumeration considered this to be doubtful. He gave > its distribution as Bhutan, E.Tibet and W.China, ?Nepal. > > Hara listed 4 species of Cynoglossum for Nepal. There was no key provided > and Cynoglossum is not an easy genus. Sometimes mature fruits are needed > to be certain of identification. > > I note the suggestion of C.amabile is based on consulting entries for > Cynoglossum in eFI but I wonder about some of these.... ANOTHER genus > which requires examining more closely - though a DAUNTING task with many > complications likely. CANNOT be a priority. > > Flora of Bhutan has a key for Cynoglossum but this requires either pressed > specimens or possibly very good close-ups to reveal details of stem hairs, > lower leaf hairs, diameter of corolla and nutlet details - which one CANNOT > see in the images taken by Saroj. > > Nevertheless, this work says C.amabile is close to C.furcatum Wall. (known > as 'Bende Kuro' and 'Khirpatey' in Nepal which is a minor weed of crops, > apparently very frequently misidentified as C.zeylanicum (Lehmann) Brand, > which is a species of tropical India & Sri Lanka which does not reach the > Himalaya. I need to check how this name relates to C.zeylancium (Vahl) > Thunb. ex Lehm. > > R.R. Mill who covered Boraginaceae for 'Flora of Bhutan' Vol 2 Part 2 > (1999) stated "Further investigation on the taxonomic status of these > small-flowered plants is needed. > > *I think for the present, unless we have a Cynoglossum/ Boraginaceae > specialist in the group who can "come to the rescue", best to just call the > plant Cynoglossum sp. Speculating too much as to what it MIGHT be will > only lead to further confusion/mistakes.* > > > *In case members consider this UNSATISFACTORY, even at top herbaria such > as Edinburgh, there can be specimens which DEFY naming even to genus or > sometimes family.* > > *I recollect on my last visit (decades ago) there was a box above a > cabinet labelled "COME UP AND SEE ME SOME TIME" for such specimens which > had defied the staff members....* > > *SOMETIMES, either the photos posted do not provide sufficient detail or > the genus is insufficiently known/studied to go beyond genus (unless > someone with specialist knowledge is available).* > > > Dear Members, >> >> Location: Kalinchowk, Dolakha, Nepal >> Altitude: 11000 ft. >> Date: 25 July 2014 >> >> Cynoglossum ??? >> >> Thank you. >> >> Saroj Kasaju >> > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.
