Thanks, Chadwell ji. On 25 January 2017 at 22:17, C CHADWELL <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dear Mr Garg > > Thanks for checking this. > > I have to say that my INITIAL thoughts are that I have my doubts as to the > validity of including > R.nanothamnus under R.giraldii. The latter rose species certainly has a > wide distribution. > > Given the 'critical' nature of Rosa in many parts of the world and the > likelihood of its complexities, > then how can the authors be certain? > > A quick look at the pressed specimens under this name (collected in the > early 20th Century in China) > do not match well what I understand to be R.nanothamnus from Kashmir. > > *Whatever the reality, it is further evidence of the complexity of the > genus. Should we be preparing* > *ourselves to be informed that what we thought was R.macrophylla > throughout the Himalaya is in fact* > *a different taxon or a number of different taxa?* > > I shall post separately about Rosa sericea in the Eastern Himalaya. > > This is also further evidence to tell us we must be ALERT to both > taxonomic changes and nomenclatural changes > for ALL genera in the Himalaya! Talk about "shifting sands"... > > Such changes must seem DAUNTING to many members of this group. > > PLANT IDENTIFICATION is NOT as quick, easy and straightforward as is > widely believed. > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]> > *To:* efloraofindia <[email protected]> > *Cc:* [email protected] > *Sent:* Wednesday, 25 January 2017, 11:39 > *Subject:* Re: Rosa nanothamnus Boulenger > > Further on checking, > Catalogue of Life shows it as a synonym of *Rosa giraldii *Crép. > <http://www.catalogueoflife.org/col/details/species/id/a23ab7e47e9975a7793f4d13789145e5/synonym/c67a6e247499a0ed6825664bc6185c8e> > with > distribution as China (Gansu, Henan, Hubei, Shaanxi, Shanxi, Sichuan), > C-Asia, Pamir, Alai, Pakistan (Kurram, Chitral, Swat), Pakistani Kashmir > (Baltistan), Jammu & Kashmir (Kashmir) > > > On 17 January 2017 at 09:28, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > > Thanks, Chadwell ji. > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: *C CHADWELL* <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com > <[email protected]>> > Date: 16 January 2017 at 22:25 > Subject: Rosa nanothamnus Boulenger > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > > > Having checked in response to an inquiry about Rosa webbiana in Ladakh, I > note that > R.nanothamnus is an accepted name, see: http://www.theplantlist.org/tp > l1.1/record/rjp-15354 > <http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/record/rjp-15354> > > I plan to post images I have of a dwarf form of this rose taken in the > Kohli Memorial Botanical Garden - > showing delightful pastel pink shades. > > I consider this DISTINCT from Rosa webbiana. > > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > > > > -- > With regards, > J.M.Garg > 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' > <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> > Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia > <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. > For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, > please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group > <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the > world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia > website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species > database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). > The whole world uses my Image Resource > <http://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/Category:J.M.Garg> of more than a > thousand species & eight thousand images of Birds, Butterflies, Plants etc. > (arranged alphabetically & place-wise). You can also use them for free as > per Creative Commons license attached with each image. > Also author of 'A Photoguide to the Birds of Kolkata & Common Birds of > India'. > > > -- With regards, J.M.Garg 'Creating awareness of Indian Flora & Fauna' <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Jmgarg1> Winner of Wipro-NFS Sparrow Awards 2014 for efloraofindia <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/award-for-efloraofindia>. For identification, learning, discussion & documentation of Indian Flora, please visit/ join our Efloraofindia Google e-group <https://groups.google.com/forum/#!forum/indiantreepix> (largest in the world- around 2700 members & 2,40,000 messages on 31.3.16) or Efloraofindia website <https://sites.google.com/site/efloraofindia/> (with a species database of more than 11,000 species & 2,20,000 images). 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