The keys used in the past to distinguish between R.webbiana and R.macrophylla
are out-of-date and I doubtthey are of much use.
Flowers of the Himalaya (itself now out-of-date) described the hips of Rosa
webbiana as ovoid to flask-shaped. Theauthors also said of R.macrophylla,
"there are many forms, some hardly distinguishable from R.webbiana".
I doubt very much if e.g. the key in 'Flora of Lahaul-Spiti' which separates
the two solely on the basis of length of leavesand number of leaflets was ever
valid. Too simplistic.
So I feel that further study of Roses in the Himalaya is required. The local
floras cannot be relied upon.
Best Wishes,
Chris Chadwell
81 Parlaunt Road
SLOUGH
SL3 8BE
UK
www.shpa.org.uk
From: Anil Thakur <[email protected]>
To: J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
Cc: efloraofindia <[email protected]>;
[email protected]; gurinder <[email protected]>
Sent: Thursday, 26 January 2017, 9:36
Subject: Re: [efloraofindia:231475] Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa webbiana from
Himachal-GSG04/Sept 2015
KEY FROM FLORA OF KULLU DISTRICT
Leaves 8-15 cm long, leaflets 7-11: R. macrophylla
Leaves 2-3 cm long, leaflets 5-9: R. webbiana
Regards
On 1/25/17, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote:
> Forwarding again for Id confirmation or otherwise please.
>
> Some earlier relevant feedback:
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> Fine photographs but are they actually a xerophytic form of Rosa
> macrophylla, rather than R.webbiana? I am uncertain. - from Chadwell
> ji
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> From: gurinder goraya <[email protected]>
> Date: 10 September 2015 at 21:53
> Subject: [efloraofindia:231475] Rosaceae Fortnight-Rosa webbiana from
> Himachal-GSG04/Sept 2015
> To: indiantreepix <[email protected]>
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> Dears,
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> The last of the four species of native Rose found wild in Himachal
> Pradesh. *Rosa
> webbiana*, found mainly in trans-Himalayan region in the State. The
> following pics are from Kinnaur, Lahaul Spiti with one pic also from
> Ladakh.
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