Thanks,  Chadwell ji

On 27 Jan 2017 7:52 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]>
wrote:

> OK.  This adds up.  Though would still be worth approaching Professor
> Richards for his opinion as to identification - plants
> is cultivation often get mixed-up by various means and are not always a
> single pure species.
>
> ANY plant growing anywhere near habitation in Nepal could easily be a
> cultivated plant - even if 'naturalised' to an extent, which
> the Primula you photographed appears to have be.
>
> Primula forbesii does appear to have been naturalised for decades in Nepal
> as have numerous other PROMINENT plants.
>
> The Supplement to Flowers of the Himalaya has 2 photos of Euphorbia
> pulcherrima (known as 'Poinsetta') which is a native of
> Central America, commonly cultivated in the tropics which is a common
> hedge plant in Nepal to 2000m.  Its large vermillion-coloured
> bracts are prominent from a distance.  This, presumably was spread around
> the world centuries ago.
>
> Agave spp. also from the Americas are commonly cultivated as hedge-plants
> in the Himalaya.
>
> Yucca aloifolia, a native of N & C. America is cultivated and planted by
> roadsides in Chamba and Kulu Valley in H.P. - I have seen Indian
> tourists stopping their cars to pluck the long branched clusters of
> cream or white flowers.
>
> Whilst Opuntia monacantha 'Prickly Pear' is commonly planted as a hedge
> plant and has naturalized in cultivated areas and on waste ground
> to 1800m.  There is a photo in 'Flowers of the Himalaya'.  There are other
> Opuntias cultivated.
>
>
> Best Wishes,
>
>
> Chris Chadwell
>
>
> 81 Parlaunt Road
> SLOUGH
> SL3 8BE
> UK
>
> www.shpa.org.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* C CHADWELL <[email protected]>; efloraofindia <
> [email protected]>
> *Sent:* Friday, 27 January 2017, 6:51
> *Subject:* Re: [efloraofindia:262569] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Primula malacoides
> Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii (accepted name)
>
> Dear Chris,
>
> Found plenty of this plant along the walls of water canal just outside the
> enclosure of protected garden inside the Godawari Botanical Garden .
> I guess they might have introduced in the garden.
>
> Thank you .
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
> On 27 Jan 2017 10:09, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks,  Chadwell ji
>
> On 26 Jan 2017 10:28 p.m., "C CHADWELL" <chrischadwell261@btinternet. com
> <[email protected]>> wrote:
>
> I have NOT looked closely at the photos posted but have reservations about
> the identification of P.malacoides unless it was being cultivated at
> Godawari.  It is not a native of Nepal and has not previously been recorded
> as naturalised.
>
> In the UK it is still (according to Professor Richards) a popular plant
> for heated glasshouse and conservatory culture.  It has been seen (by
> Richards) to be grown as a municipal bedding plant in Sydney, Auckland,
> Christchurch & Singapore.
>
> In the wild it is distributed from just outside Myanamar on the Yunnan
> border near the Salween, throughout Yunnnan to western
> Kweichow.  A weed of cultivated fields.
>
> Richards described it as closely-related to another weed species, Primula
> forbesii.
>
> Whereas, P.forbesii had been recorded around temples near Kathmandu (and
> some other parts of Nepal) - confirmed by Richards. *Though I remain
> curious as to how it got there as this species, though pretty enough, is
> hardly a normal garden plant.*
>
> In 'Primula' (2003) Richards has a key which separates P.forbesii from
> P.malacoides (and some other species) on the basis of
> the former species having the lowest whorl of flowers overtopping the
> leaves.  In the latter, the stem below lowest whorl of flowers
> not exceeding the leaves.
>
> *Perhaps, again, the best person to confirm the identity is Professor
> Richards, so why not forward him the images, as was done *
> *with two other Primulas.*
>
>
>
> Best Wishes,
>
>
> Chris Chadwell
>
>
> 81 Parlaunt Road
> SLOUGH
> SL3 8BE
> UK
>
> www.shpa.org.uk
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Saroj Kasaju <[email protected]>
> *To:* J.M. Garg <[email protected]>
> *Cc:* efloraofindia <[email protected] m
> <[email protected]>>
> *Sent:* Thursday, 26 January 2017, 10:51
> *Subject:* [efloraofindia:262457] Re: Fwd: Fwd: Primula malacoides
> Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii (accepted name)
>
> Thank you Dr. Bawri for the ID but not listef in Nepal so far!
>
> On 26 Jan 2017 13:15, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Thanks a lot, Bawri ji.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Dr. Amal Bawri*
> Date: 26 January 2017 at 12:14
> Subject: Re: Fwd: Primula malacoides Franch. (accepted name) or Primula
> forbesii (accepted name)
> To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>
>
> Primula malacoides
> On Jan 26, 2017 12:10 PM, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> Forwarding again for Id assistance please.
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Saroj Kasaju* <[email protected]>
> Date: 14 January 2017 at 23:11
> Subject: Primula malacoides Franch. (accepted name) or Primula forbesii
> (accepted name)
> To: efloraofindia <[email protected] m
> <[email protected]>>, "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]>
>
>
> Dear Members,
>
> Location: Godawari, Nepal
> Altitude: 5000 ft.
> Date: 10 January 2017
>
> Thank you.
>
> Saroj Kasaju
>
>
>
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