Dear Sir I have already seen this article before and it is not surprising that the plant in Saphoo et al (2016) is wrongly identified and it is infact Dactylorhiza hatagirea. Very peculiar labellum. I have not seen the Dactylorhiza umbrosa myself but if it is in Pakistan (Chitral) till Iraq, then obviously not a big deal if it can be found in India, but so far I have not seen the live plants myself. At one point I also thought that umbrosa and hatagirea should be same as hatagirea is very widespread and even found at broad elevation range. But as I never had specimen I was unable to conclude. Orchids of Russia - Vakhrameeva et al. (2008) didnt include Pakistan as the distribution range for this, but Orchids of Northwest Himalaya - Deva and Naithani (1986) included. I have not see your pics but would love to have a look. Thanks and regards Pankaj
On Tue, Feb 7, 2017 at 4:17 PM, J.M. Garg <[email protected]> wrote: > Thanks, Chadwell ji > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > From: "C CHADWELL" <[email protected]> > Date: 7 Feb 2017 12:38 p.m. > Subject: Dactylorhiza umbrosa was not FIRST found in 2012 near Vishensar > Lake, Kashmir but by Chris Chadwell's team in Ladakh in 1980! > To: "J.M. Garg" <[email protected]> > Cc: > > I am currently preparing a posting about New Records for Ladakh found > during the University of Southampton Expedition to Ladakh in 1980 when I > was team-leading of the botanical project which was a botanical survey of > the Suru Valley. > > We collected a Marsh Orchid: Dactylorhiza umbrosa (Kar. et Kir.) our > collection number SULE 16 - which was deposited in the herbarium of the > University of Kashmir. *This was 32 years before 2012... According to > the article it represents an ADDITION TO THE FLORA OF INDIA....* > Duplicate specimens went to Kew; triplicate specimens to University of > Southampton. > > See: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/304498649_Dactylorh > iza_umbrosa_Kar_Kir_Nevski_Orchidaceae_an_addition_to_ > flora_of_India_from_Kashmir_Himalaya > > My team collected this at Panichar, 3300m, grassy verge between Chalang > Nullah and irrigation channel; wet sandy loam in marshy area with > Trifolium, Euphrasia, grasses. To 35cm, deep mauve with purple markings on > lower petals; occasionally white forms. > > *I noted in the Report of the Expedition that Dactylorhiza umbrosa was > considered by some authors to be only part of the Dactylorhiza hatagirea > complex. * > > *Stewart in his Annotated Catalogue lists both D.hatagirea and D.umbrosa > (collected in Chitral) observing it was probably distinct but part of the > D.hatagirea complex.* > > *In my recent postings about Dactylorhiza I had assumed our 1980 > collection was part of this complex but as D.umbrosa appears to be* > *an accepted name and the specimens were identified at Kew one presumably > can trust their determination.* > > *Thus, it appears, my team found this orchid for the first time in Indian > territory back in 1980.* > > *I would naturally welcome the thoughts of our orchid specialist.* > > > > Best Wishes, > > > Chris Chadwell > > > 81 Parlaunt Road > SLOUGH > SL3 8BE > UK > > www.shpa.org.uk > > > > > -- ****************************************************** **************************************************************** *Pankaj Kumar*, Ph.D. *IUCN-SSC Orchid Specialist Group Asia* *Office*: Conservation Officer Orchid Conservation Section Flora Conservation Department Kadoorie Farm and Botanic Garden (KFBG) Corporation Lam Kam Road, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. *Residence*: House no. 39, 2nd Floor, Shui Wo Tsuen Lam Tsuen, Tai Po, New Territories, Hong Kong. *email*: [email protected]; [email protected] *Phone*: +852 2483 7128 (office - 8:30am to 5:00pm); +852 9436 6251 (mobile); *Fax*: +852 2483 7194 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "efloraofindia" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To post to this group, send an email to [email protected]. Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/group/indiantreepix. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/d/optout.

